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1 CuriousLurker  Mon, Jan 21, 2013 4:51:15pm

Bravo!

2 Goosestepping Obama Tina Brown(New Dance Craze)  Mon, Jan 21, 2013 5:26:58pm

I Bet Pam is angered that Nolte posted that White supremacist linked, anti MLK story on Breitbart then!

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3 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Jan 21, 2013 8:07:08pm

Vicious Babushka,

Pamela Geller won’t admit, she was wrong? Why am I not surprised?

4 What, me worry?  Mon, Jan 21, 2013 8:14:14pm

Well, most of that Pam quote is correct. The last two lines, if they are correct, had to be quoted from a different source because they are not part of the quote above it.

The original document is a transcript of a Q&A with the 68th Rabbinical Assembly in 1968. Here is a PDF link.
[Link: www.rabbinicalassembly.org…]
I actually have the original pages scanned on my hard drive. Yes, it’s authenticate.

Dr. King met with Jewish rabbinical leaders 10 days prior to his murder. His friend and fellow Selma marcher, Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel was there, along with others.

It’s wonderful to read the whole thing actually. The part Pam quotes comes from questions about the relationship between the Jewish and Black communities. Close friends on one hand, but tinted with racism on the other.

Dr. King talks about some uncomfortable things. One of which is how Jewish landlords (slumlords) were overcharging Black tenants. Although Dr. King is very clear that he is a friend to the Jewish community, he acknowledges this problem exist. He also often speaks in terms of the views of the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, not just him personally.

Anyway, you can read it. This bit starts at the bottom of page 9.

What’s purposefully omitted are his comments about the Arabs and he’s very much correct there, too. He links the Arab struggle to poverty, hunger, illiteracy and I’d throw in lack of education or misguided education - propaganda.

The word “Zionism” or “Zionist” does not appear in any of these 19 pages.

On the Middle East crisis, we have had various responses. The response of some of the so-called young militants again does not represent the position of the vast majority of Negroes. There are some who are color-consumed and they see a kind of mystique in being colored, and anything non-colored is condemned. We do not follow that course in the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, and certainly most of the organizations in the civil rights movement do not follow that course. I think it is necessary to say that what is basic and what is needed in the Middle East is peace. Peace for Israel is one thing. Peace for the Arab side of that world is another thing. Peace for Israel means security, and we must stand with all of our might to protect its right to exist, its territorial integrity. I see Israel, and never mind saying it, as one of the great outposts of democracy in the world, and a marvelous example of what can be done, how desert land almost can be transformed into an oasis of brotherhood and democracy. Peace for Israel means security and that security must be a reality.

On the other hand, we must see what peace for the Arabs means in a real sense of security on another level. Peace for the Arabs means the kind of economic security that they so desperately need. These nations, as you know, are part of that third world of hunger, of disease, of illiteracy. I think that as long as these conditions exist there will be tensions, there will be the endless quest to find scapegoats. So there is a need for a Marshall Plan for the Middle East, where we lift those who are at the bottom of the economic ladder and bring them into the mainstream of economic security.

This is how we have tried to answer the question and deal with the problem in the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, and I think that represents the thinking of all of those in the Negro community, by and large, who have been thinking about this issue in the Middle East.

5 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 21, 2013 9:06:09pm

Vodka Badger doesn’t give a shit..

6 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 22, 2013 4:23:22am

re: #4 What, me worry?

The word “Zionism” or “Zionist” does not appear in any of these 19 pages.

The quote that we are talking about here, “Anti-Zionism equals anti-Semitism,” is bogus. You can throw in as many other random quotes as you want, but that doesn’t cancel out the fact that someone MADE UP A FAKE LETTER. The question is, who did that? My money is on Schneier, or possibly Seymour Martin Lipset.

You do know that purposely making up a fake quote tends to tarnish the real quotes if you mix them up together.

7 What, me worry?  Tue, Jan 22, 2013 6:41:15am

re: #6 Vicious Babushka

It’s not clear you were talking about the last two sentences nor that the top of it was, indeed, said by Dr. King who had a wonderful relationship with the Jewish community. I think it’s an important distinction so one doesn’t throw out the baby with the bathwater.

Btw, “anti-Zionism” does equal “anti-Semitism”. Although “Zionism” wasn’t the buzz word it was in King’s day as it is now… a way to hate on Jews without having to say the word “Jew”.


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