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1 EPR-radar  Thu, Jan 24, 2013 8:53:49am

Rarely is the hatred of women at the heart of the hard-line anti-abortion movement made so explicitly clear. It is especially twisted that the state legislator that introduced this bill is a woman.

Of course this will not pass because the NM legislature is Democratic.

One would hope that this would also not pass in a Republican state legislature.

2 Destro  Thu, Jan 24, 2013 9:24:32am

re: #1 EPR-radar

Rarely is the hatred of women at the heart of the hard-line anti-abortion movement made so explicitly clear. It is especially twisted that the state legislator that introduced this bill is a woman.

Of course this will not pass because the NM legislature is Democratic.

One would hope that this would also not pass in a Republican state legislature.

The religious right hates independent right asserting free women. They love women as the religious right views as a woman’s proper role - Biblically submissive brood sows.

3 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 24, 2013 9:42:14am

Amazing that the same anti-abortion advocates who claim that a fetus is a person (and are pressing ahead with personhood amendments) have no problem treating a fetus as an object or property when the need suits them.

The only thing this does is further stigmatize and penalize a woman who is already traumatized by the rape/sexual assault and is now pregnant as a result.

4 calochortus  Thu, Jan 24, 2013 10:15:49am

Exactly what additional evidence would be provided by a child as opposed to a fetus?

5 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 24, 2013 10:18:11am

re: #4 calochortus

Exactly what additional evidence would be provided by a child as opposed to a fetus?

Or as opposed to a DNA swab?

6 labman57  Thu, Jan 24, 2013 12:03:16pm

Extending that logic, if somebody poisons or shoots you, then you should not be permitted to seek treatment, as the procedure would “tamper” with the evidence.

7 Skip Intro  Thu, Jan 24, 2013 12:09:10pm

re: #6 labman57

Extending that logic, if somebody poisons or shoots you, then you should not be permitted to seek treatment, as the procedure would “tamper” with the evidence.

Makes perfect sense to me. Has anyone mentioned yet that the woman who proposed this bill is an idiot? If not, let me be the first.

8 Skip Intro  Thu, Jan 24, 2013 12:10:39pm

re: #1 EPR-radar

One would hope that this would also not pass in a Republican state legislature.

I have no doubt that it won’t be long now before we find out.

9 iceweasel  Thu, Jan 24, 2013 12:39:31pm
Tampering with evidence shall include procuring or facilitating an abortion, or compelling or coercing another to obtain an abortion, of a fetus that is the result of criminal sexual penetration or incest with the intent to destroy evidence of the crime,” the bill says.

From your link, but not your excerpt:

UPDATE: 12:25 p.m. — Brown said in a statement Thursday that she introduced the bill with the goal of punishing the person who commits incest or rape and then procures or facilitates an abortion to destroy the evidence of the crime.

“New Mexico needs to strengthen its laws to deter sex offenders,” said Brown. “By adding this law in New Mexico, we can help to protect women across our state.”

She’s obviously a liar. Because if the goal really was to protect women, the law would have been written differently— there wouldn’t have been this clause about procuring an abortion. She’s a liar and hater of women.

10 Skip Intro  Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:00:23pm

re: #9 iceweasel

She’s obviously a liar. Because if the goal really was to protect women, the law would have been written differently— there wouldn’t have been this clause about procuring an abortion. She’s a liar and hater of women.

There’s a shorthand term for that: Republican.

11 FemNaziBitch  Thu, Jan 24, 2013 2:08:50pm

“No, dear, you were not the result of a loving relationship. You were not created in love and planned and yearned for. You were evidence.”

I have a hard time with anyone justifying violence is a reason bringing a child into the world.

12 timbo  Thu, Jan 24, 2013 3:38:50pm

You communist Republicans have GOT to be kidding. How about preserving the “weapon” used to impregnate the raped/assaulted female?

13 Bubblehead II  Thu, Jan 24, 2013 3:41:15pm

re: #12 timbo

Welcome Hatchling.

14 Aligarr  Thu, Jan 24, 2013 5:20:54pm

How can a fetus be used as evidence in a rape case , when we all know that ‘mechanism’ that women have kicks in and prevents conception ?

15 Kruk  Thu, Jan 24, 2013 10:20:23pm

re: #14 Aligarr

How can a fetus be used as evidence in a rape case , when we all know that ‘mechanism’ that women have kicks in and prevents conception ?

To take that one step further, here’s how it would play out in the Republican Utopia:

The State requires women to carry pregnancies resulting from rape to term as evidence.

The Defense would be able to argue that ‘since the female body didn’t shut that whole thing down’, it wasn’t a legitimate rape.

The case would be thrown out, and the the rape victim would be left to raise the child without any public assistance.

Kafka lives, and he’s writing Republican policy.


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