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1 dragonath  Fri, Jan 25, 2013 11:22:34am

From the libertarian perspective, women deprived the world of fresh human capital.

2 Dr. Matt  Fri, Jan 25, 2013 11:54:43am

Today a good majority of self-proclaimed “Libertarians” and “Independents” are conservatives too ashamed, too embarrassed, or too cowardly to call themselves a ‘Republican’.

3 EPR-radar  Fri, Jan 25, 2013 12:25:20pm

re: #2 Dr. Matt

Today a good majority of self-proclaimed “Libertarians” and “Independents” are conservatives too ashamed, too embarrassed, or too cowardly to call themselves a ‘Republican’.

Very true. Although there are many flavors of libertarian, it is hard to imagine any sensible way to arrive at an anti-abortion position from libertarian principles.

4 RadicalModerate  Fri, Jan 25, 2013 12:49:12pm

A vast majority of anti-abortionists are hardline fundamentalist Christians, who by definition are extreme authoritarian social Conservatives.

They are as much “Libertarian” as a member of the Council of Conservative Citizens is a proponent of Civil Rights - no matter how many times they claim that they are.

5 dragonath  Fri, Jan 25, 2013 1:23:14pm

Most of these self proclaimed “libertarians” of a tea-party bent should be in the Constitution Party, but that movement doesn’t (as yet) have a symbol of belligerence as effective as the Gadsden Flag.

6 ThomasLite  Fri, Jan 25, 2013 2:03:14pm

re: #3 EPR-radar

Very true. Although there are many flavors of libertarian, it is hard to imagine any sensible way to arrive at an anti-abortion position from libertarian principles.

Don’t know about that, really. Most of that lot would hold the whole right to move my fist ends at your nose thing quite dear, and when you assume life to start at conception, and that fetus to be a person as well, I can see how you’d get to an anti-abortion view.
No statement as to the validity of that view intended; just saying it isn’t internally inconsistent as far as I can see (except with the most far-out-there caricatures of libertarianism - nature can always invent a better idiot.)

7 Ogami Itto  Fri, Jan 25, 2013 2:37:46pm

FWIW, Ayn Rand was very much pro-abortion if I remember correctly.

8 cinesimon  Fri, Jan 25, 2013 5:13:03pm

re: #6 ThomasLite

Indeed - like most of today’s ‘libertarian’ policy ideals, what it does require is a rejection of science and reality.

9 moderatelyradicalliberal  Fri, Jan 25, 2013 8:11:08pm

re: #2 Dr. Matt

Today a good majority of self-proclaimed “Libertarians” and “Independents” are conservatives too ashamed, too embarrassed, or too cowardly to call themselves a ‘Republican’.

Libertarian = Republican who wants to legalize pot smoking.


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