Pages

Jump to bottom

11 comments

1 JeffFX  Sun, Jan 27, 2013 8:10:18am

The gun manufacturers are pure poison. This coupled with the transformation of ignorant conservatives into hate-driven radical-reactionaries is very worrying.

2 Political Atheist  Sun, Jan 27, 2013 8:22:34am

As uncomfortable as we can be after mas shootings and the tragedy they are-Target shooting and hunting remain family events, particularly in rural lands. That means the kids get taught many outdoor skills including gun safety for handling, hunting or target shooting. Water/boat safety for fishing. etc. Fire safety for those campfires. Wildfire prevention.

Like it or not the light recoil (civilian .223 or milspec 5.56) and smallish size of sporting AR guns makes them a pretty good choice for teens, women and anyone slight in build. The adjustable stock for example is a big plus for a shared rifle.

As a kid I was taught to use a hunting rifle for sport. Grandpa had a Springfield 30.06. Huge recoil, huge noise, and not one bit more accurate than a target configured AR. I hated it. That springfield put me off rifle target shooting as too loud and painful. After I inherited it, I gave it away.

3 dragonath  Sun, Jan 27, 2013 9:12:16am

re: #2 Political Atheist

Like it or not the light recoil (civilian .223 or milspec 5.56) and smallish size of sporting AR guns makes them a pretty good choice for teens, women and anyone slight in build. The adjustable stock for example is a big plus for a shared rifle.

Good grief man, these aren’t Super Soakers.

4 Political Atheist  Sun, Jan 27, 2013 9:21:12am

re: #3 dragonath

No of course not. But how old do you think a rural raised person should be to hunt or target shoot?

5 Skip Intro  Sun, Jan 27, 2013 10:16:32am
“Who knows?” it said. “Maybe you’ll find a Bushmaster AR-15 under your tree some frosty Christmas morning!”

And if not, maybe you can borrow one from your friends and shoot your parents for being such total dicks.

6 dragonath  Sun, Jan 27, 2013 10:36:48am

re: #4 Political Atheist

No of course not. But how old do you think a rural raised person should be to hunt or target shoot?

I’m against perpetuating this market at any age. And that’s beside the point- It’d be an insane choice for a beginner. The .223 isn’t even legal for hunting in many states.

7 Political Atheist  Sun, Jan 27, 2013 10:58:10am

re: #6 dragonath

I’m against perpetuating this market at any age. And that’s beside the point- It’d be an insane choice for a beginner. The .223 isn’t even legal for hunting in many states.

“This market” being semi auto rifles with a removable magazine? Or just that model because it has a military appearance?

So in your opinion the shooting sports and hunting should have no publications, web sites, etc. at all. ?! Okay, I understand but that’s a position far beyond the most strident gun control group. Way past what our President even contemplates. The .223 is an excellent cartridge to get started in rifle target shooting.

The ,223 is illegal for certain hunting because it is too small and weak for sizable game. Or thought to be so. Which is what makes it right for smaller game and target shooting beyond 25 or 50 yards. No need of a lot of horsepower to put a hole in a paper target. Nor bruise a shoulder.

8 dragonath  Sun, Jan 27, 2013 11:40:37am

re: #7 Political Atheist

Yes, I think they are a bad choice for hunting. But this thread isn’t about that.

So in your opinion the shooting sports and hunting should have no publications, web sites, etc. at all. ?! Okay, I understand but that’s a position far beyond the most strident gun control group. Way past what our President even contemplates. The .223 is an excellent cartridge to get started in rifle target shooting.

That’s a straw man. I’ve you’ve read my posts in the past, you would have noticed that I am an advocate for Pennsylvania Game News, Field and Stream, and stuff like the old Hunter-Trader-Trapper magazine.

The magazine linked above goes way beyond any kind of respectable hobbyist publication and enters the realm of pure gun glorification and commercialization. “Glocks are for Girls?” - I mean, what the fuck is that? I reject it utterly.

The ,223 is illegal for certain hunting because it is too small and weak for sizable game. Or thought to be so. Which is what makes it right for smaller game and target shooting beyond 25 or 50 yards. No need of a lot of horsepower to put a hole in a paper target. Nor bruise a shoulder.

Or is thought to be so. Come on man. I don’t know what kind of anecdotal evidence you’re relying on, but .223 is absolutely borderline for large game.

Again, this thread was never about target shooting. I have no idea what you are trying to defend here because I sure as hell don’t need a light assault rifle to shoot a hole in a piece of paper at 100 yards.

9 stabby  Sun, Jan 27, 2013 12:02:02pm

If you go to “juniorshooters.net” with scripting turned off you see the following google bait at the top of the page… given this sort of crap I would NEVER go there without good anti-virus software on

Applicants have heard the duration of method you payday loans payday loans up creating an economy in repayment length. Overdue bills as soon after this account usually 24hourpaydayloanfastcash.com can buy a perfect fast loan. Fortunately when repayment schedules can take days there and payday loans payday loans which makes them with so long term. Or just about repayment amounts you cannot afford Quick Pay Day Loan Quick Pay Day Loan to leave your own independent search. Is the last thing but can immediately begin receiving your transaction to how beneficial these it take advantage of unforeseen emergencies happen to payday loan payday loan your account a more people trust that extra money according to exceed though many providers of future paychecks in person owes. Applicants must provide information is lower the reputation payday loan payday loan of dealing with mortgage arrears on payday. Another asset but if it this type of comparing services and repayment schedules available online can save money with fast cash fast cash to follow through pay or concerns our staff is often there is also making embarrassing requests for finance. Got all well aware that payday loans payday loans interested in full. Finally you did freelance work through at managing finances payday loan payday loan a family or from the fax documents. Remember that brings you as true payday loans payday loans under even check process. Thanks to checking accounts within a decent credit options before or picking up the longer and longer have unpaid payday you payday loans payday loans budget then tells the state determines if these new technological innovation it this is faster you between seven years? Look around and check out of their families into the exception to payday loans payday loans leave their payments or drive anywhere to place your home. Generally we manage their trust that they paid back when reading these times fast cash fast cash throughout the picture tube went out at a place your needs! People are standing and falling off in buying the payday loans payday loans mortgage payment is generally higher than a. Within minutes your loans to know exactly then transferred directly deposited straight to cash payday loans payday loans once it from a drivers license for business day of life and completely?

10 Political Atheist  Sun, Jan 27, 2013 12:07:42pm

re: #8 dragonath

My apologies for any misunderstanding. No straw man intended. This phrase= “I’m against perpetuating this market at any age.” is pretty broad. Made me think you object to the publications at any age. I respect your actual meaning as corrected.

Do you see the shooting sports as an adults only sport? It’s a long held tradition of course is that it’s a family sport. The young hunt in most any culture that has hunting. Maybe not with guns of course.

A young teen can not own an AR or a handgun. But a parent can buy one for the kids safety training and use at the range or hunting. He might put it under the tree with an understanding registration / transfer and true legal ownership has to wait for the law. That’s how it works. TP has the outrage dialed up a bit here. I have taught lot of people how to shoot, some kids as young as 13 or so. I don’t get the outrage at bringing a young responsible kid into the shooting sports.

I went looking around about the .223 and hunting. The states are literally & figuratively all over the map. (yes pun intended) It’s a small game cartridge IMO, from the specs, though I don’t hunt. It’s not hard to find people that make a good argument to allow it for deer at reasonable range. There is lot’s of hunting besides deer. I think you had just said hunting. So I was not thinking about deer and larger. I was thinking from small game up to whatever upper size limit might be appropriate.

.223 is significantly less powerful than the real military round for the AR-15/M4 series, the 5.56mm of the same shape and caliber but more pressure, enough to possibly burst a .223 gun.

So what is your argument about .223 hunting, or target shooting? The rifle range where I serve on the BOD allows shooting from 25 to 800 yards. Some choose to target shoot way the heck out there and that means we see some really powerful stuff being used for a sport. Long range rifle target shooting. Unless you dislike guns, it’s a lot of fun.

11 dragonath  Sun, Jan 27, 2013 12:37:24pm

re: #10 Political Atheist

I learned to hunt at 12. I’m against the use of semi-automatic weapons at .223, not only because it is illegal in my state, but an inexperienced hunter shooting multiple rounds at that caliber is a recipe for inhumane, unsportsmanlike hunting.


This page has been archived.
Comments are closed.

Jump to top

Create a PageThis is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title, text, and any embedded video or audio files already filled in, ready to go.
Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.
Last updated: 2016-01-01 10:29 am PST
LGF User's Guide RSS Feeds Tweet

Help support Little Green Footballs!

Subscribe now for ad-free access!Register and sign in to a free LGF account before subscribing, and your ad-free access will be automatically enabled.

Recent PagesClick to refresh
Millenial Outreach, How Can We Improve It?As this election has unfolded, one development that has me baffled is the persistent idea that both sides are "the same". I’ve been really concerned about how the millennials have been essentially telling us (Dems) that our arguments are incredibly ...
piratedan
32 minutes ago
Views: 40 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 0 • Share to Facebook
Shares: 0
Comments: 0
: 0
SPLC: United States Crime Rates Still at Historic Lows MONTGOMERY, Ala. – The following statement regarding the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting program’s annual Crime in the United States report, released September 26, 2016, is from Lisa Graybill, deputy legal director at the Southern Poverty Law Center. "The FBI’s ...
Birth Control Works
9 hours, 55 minutes ago
Views: 93 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 0 • Share to Facebook
Shares: 0
Comments: 0
: 0
Advice She Didn’t Ask For"Save us from fascism but don't be a bitch about it." Thanks for weighing in, but it looks like Hillary Clinton is doing just fine without the help of body language experts. Watch Full Frontal with Samantha Bee next week ...
Thanos
13 hours, 49 minutes ago
Views: 145 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1
Tweets: 0 • Share to Facebook
Shares: 1
Comments: 0
: 1
Actual Scientific Polls Show Big Win for Hillary Clinton in First Debate The consensus is in: viewers overwhelmingly thought Hillary Clinton was the winner of the first presidential debate. Four polls — from CNN/ORC, Politico/Morning Consult, NBC/SurveyMonkey, and Public Policy Polling — all showed that respondents felt Clinton bested Donald Trump ...
Thanos
14 hours, 12 minutes ago
Views: 316 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 1 • Share to Facebook
Shares: 0
Comments: 0
: 0
Senate Update: Races for the Senate and White House Are Moving in Near Lockstep The senate races are so important this cycle, even if Hillary wins she faces an impossible task and we face 4-8 more years of pure obstructionism from the GOP if they hang on to the Senate. Democrats are still ...
Thanos
14 hours, 34 minutes ago
Views: 160 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 0 • Share to Facebook
Shares: 0
Comments: 0
: 0
America’s Biggest Food Companies Support Hillary Clinton, With One Glaring Exception If you were an exec at a big corporation that mass-produces food or farm chemicals, who would you rather see prevail in November's presidential election? To get an idea of where Big Food and Ag stand on the 2016 ...
Birth Control Works
19 hours, 38 minutes ago
Views: 223 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 0 • Share to Facebook
Shares: 0
Comments: 0
: 0
Want to Reduce Crime in America? Try Giving Kids Better Food. In 2015, the Guardian published a list of 24 ways to reduce crime in the most violent cities in the world. Suggestions included avoiding repressive policies, moving the focus away from poverty and putting the focus more on gun ...
Birth Control Works
19 hours, 42 minutes ago
Views: 160 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 0 • Share to Facebook
Shares: 0
Comments: 0
: 0
Shimon Peres, the Realist Dreamer Tel Aviv — There are very few people in the world whose lives align so effortlessly with the birth and being of their homeland. Shimon Peres, who has died at age 93, left an indelible mark on Israel — ...
Birth Control Works
19 hours, 43 minutes ago
Views: 130 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 0 • Share to Facebook
Shares: 1
Comments: 0
: 1
U.S. to Bar Arbitration Clauses in Nursing Home Contracts The federal agency that controls billions of dollars in Medicaid and Medicaid funding has moved to prevent nursing homes from forcing claims of elder abuse, sexual harassment and even wrongful death into the private system of justice known as ...
Birth Control Works
1 day, 6 hours ago
Views: 233 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1
Tweets: 0 • Share to Facebook
Shares: 1
Comments: 0
: 1
2017 State Business Tax Climate Index Executive Summary The Tax Foundation’s State Business Tax Climate Index enables business leaders, government policymakers, and taxpayers to gauge how their states’ tax systems compare. While there are many ways to show how much is collected in taxes by ...
Birth Control Works
1 day, 6 hours ago
Views: 253 • Comments: 2 • Rating: 1
Tweets: 2 • Share to Facebook
Shares: 0
Comments: 0
: 0