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Armed ‘Good Guys’ and the Realities of Facing a Gunman : NPR

Or it's not as simple & easy as LaPierre would have you believe.

William Barnett-Lewis

Politics • 1/29/13 6:26:18 am • Views: 550

As the nation ponders how to stop the next mass shooting, the gun rights movement offers a straight-forward formula, laid out famously by NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre.

“The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun,” LaPierre said last month, as his group responded to the elementary school massacre in Newtown, Conn.

One Man’s Story

In Washington state, one such “good guy” — a private citizen who drew his gun in defense of others — paid a heavy price.

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Here’s a good piece on the realities rather than NRA fantasy. It’s never as cut and dried as anyone, on either side of a contentious debate, would have you believe.

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Locker Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:21:20am

Keeps falling on deaf ears even though it’s repeated over and over… citizens with guns are normally not trained military, police or security professional.

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nines09 Tue, Jan 29, 2013 9:45:44am

I don’t care what you pack. The other guy gets the drop on you, you lose. I’ve lived far enough out that if I did have a problem, no officer state or otherwise was going to get there, thus I have had protection. Still do. It’s no 30 clip jerk off fantasy gonna rip the bad guy a new ass piece either.

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Political Atheist Tue, Jan 29, 2013 10:08:28am

One of the critical aspects we were taught and learned to pass on as instructors-Your home needs to be secure enough to buy you time to get out if you can, hide if you must, and shoot if it comes down to no other options. A gun should be the final security. Good windows, doors, alarms, and a thought through plan all comes first. Way in advance first.

AFAIK IN public your CCW is similar. Observe & get away if you can to get help & inform first responders of any critical info. Hide if you can’t get away. Shoot only if you get found and cornered. Unfortunately, in a crowd you might not even try, just run. Engaging in a crowd will just take more lives.

TL:dr ? Sorry.
The gun is the last thing, the very last.

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Political Atheist Tue, Jan 29, 2013 11:04:29am

re: #1 Locker

Keeps falling on deaf ears even though it’s repeated over and over… citizens with guns are normally not trained military, police or security professional.

Nor should they be. (Half kidding!!)

The right training for civilian self defense is a lot different. Police train to take it forward and apprehend. Civilians don’t. Different mission. More safety training, More tactics than a street cop might get. More gun time, less laws to learn by far.

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Ghost of Alouette Tue, Jan 29, 2013 11:10:41am

DERPERS GOTTA DERP

I prefer surviving a deadly attack & explaining how that bad guy got that fatal bullet wound. #NRA #TGDN #tcot #p2 #2nd #rap #guncontrol
— Voting Female (@VotingFemale) January 29, 2013

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HappyWarrior Tue, Jan 29, 2013 11:30:34am

It’s good to want to protect others but nothing’s ever as simple as we want it to be as we see in Mr. McKown’s story.

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