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1 HappyWarrior  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 2:37:20pm

I’m not surprised. There are many people here in the South who want to rewrite history where the CSA was a noble cause and Lincoln and those who fought to preserve the Union evil. Neo-confederates say they’re proud of their ancestors. Well, I’m proud of my ancestor, the first American in my family actually who fought against that shitty society.

2 FemNaziBitch  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 2:59:02pm

I can honor the individual soldier, yet I can’t honor the commanders.

There is a big difference.

3 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 4:25:04pm

The article bring up a phenomena I’ve noticed before: That many people do not have a history. They have a mythology.

Which is a far lesser thing.

4 JeffFX  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:43:43pm

re: #1 HappyWarrior

I’m not surprised. There are many people here in the South who want to rewrite history where the CSA was a noble cause and Lincoln and those who fought to preserve the Union evil. Neo-confederates say they’re proud of their ancestors. Well, I’m proud of my ancestor, the first American in my family actually who fought against that shitty society.

When I was a naive 20-something I actually thought we were all improving and becoming smarter and more tolerant of others every day. I projected my personal-journey from child to responsible adult onto the whole world. Really immersing myself in Conservative ignorance in America and in the Middle-East has taught me that this is not the case.

We seem to be two worlds. One becoming better every day, making amazing scientific achievements and raising our fellow man out of the muck, and one becoming more ignorant, hateful, and extremely-dumbed-down-religious every day. Mainstream Republicans and Islamists clearly falling (and failing) in the second group.

If the ignorant Conservatives don’t get their shit together soon they’ll all be so totally dysfunctional that they have to act-out and get killed or locked away because they can’t engage with thinking people without getting constant raised eyebrows at the absurd things they say they believe.

A subculture can’t intentionally make each generation more sheltered and ignorant than their parents and survive in this world. We succeed because our children are smarter than us, but that’s not true if you don’t raise them responsibly, and instead shackle their minds with superstition and reality-denial.

5 EPR-radar  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 6:47:28pm

re: #4 JeffFX

Bingo. In my view, it all depends on what fraction of the population goes the full atavist route. If it is small enough, they can fade into obscurity. However, if it is too large, the nation/civilization will fall.

To me, the US seems too close for comfort. It could go either way in the next 10-20 years.

6 JeffFX  Tue, Jan 29, 2013 7:05:09pm

re: #5 EPR-radar

Bingo. In my view, it all depends on what fraction of the population goes the full atavist route. If it is small enough, they can fade into obscurity. However, if it is too large, the nation/civilization will fall.

To me, the US seems too close for comfort. It could go either way in the next 10-20 years.

I know. I’m a very healthy 46, so I’ve had a really good run and I’m not worried about myself, but I fear that my niece and nephews will grow up in a fallen United States after their own parents cheer on the fall due to having associated with Conservative Christians while not employing critical thinking skills.

I don’t let it keep me up at night, but I do worry.


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