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1 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:30:50pm

I think disarming nearly 20K people would be difficult even if they had the funding. . .

I think it shows the realities of the issue.

2 JeffFX  Wed, Jan 30, 2013 6:56:38pm

re: #1 FemNaziBitch

I think disarming nearly 20K people would be difficult even if they had the funding…

I think it shows the realities of the issue.

We let the problem get this bad, we need to deal with the problem no matter how difficult.
It’s not like it’s going to get better if we keep ignoring violent people with guns.

3 Political Atheist  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 8:10:59am

This kind of foolishness gives fuel to an argument from the pro gun side. The state is being cheap and lazy. Or worse, duplicitous. Using the crimes these felons will commit with guns to pass yet more “tough on crime” or gun control laws. I personally don’t buy into that argument. Others do.

It’s easy to pass a gun control law, yet $$ & hard to enforce it well. But the legislators get another passed law in the win column to tout every election cycle.

Felons with guns? To me that looks like the place to start early to reduce gun crimes. Certainly the violent felons! Why is that not a “no brainer”?

4 celticdragon  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 10:05:43am

California is the poster child of dysfunction. Part of it is gerrymandering that leaves overwhelmingly safe districts, especially for the GOP minority in the legislature. The other part is the state constitution, which is now one of the longest and most convoluted in the world. It can be amended by popular vote, and that amendment cannot be overturned by the legislature. This means the constitution is amended rather often, especially when it comes to making it impossible to tax property. Also, passing a budget requires a super majority in the legislature, which the safely entrenched GOP members are easily able to prevent.

This leads to a state that is constitutionally prohibited from being able to raise funds and legislationally blocked from paying basic bills.

5 Skip Intro  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 10:53:23am

re: #4 celticdragon

Also, passing a budget requires a super majority in the legislature, which the safely entrenched GOP members are easily able to prevent.

Not any more.

The estimate I’ve read was $8 million a year for the staff to deal with this. That’s probably less than the state legislature gets for its yearly car allowance.


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