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1 Skip Intro  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:21:55pm

Is that supposed to be Beck’s make-believe Oval Office?

2 JeffFX  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:32:43pm

re: #1 Skip Intro

Is that supposed to be Beck’s make-believe Oval Office?

I believe so. The contrast between the serious setting and the absolutely ridiculous people makes my brain itch. If I didn’t have the mental equipment to see through wingnuts, I might actually think they’re serious people due to the setting.

3 nines09  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 1:46:14pm

Beck and Barton. Snake Oil and Poison.

4 Destro  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 2:01:19pm

There were a lot of really cool articles a few months back about this right wing fake historian and his allies who actually invent American history and invent or change around quotes from Founding Fathers, etc to make them sound like Tea Baggers.

It is like they hate the real world and want to live in a fantasy America that never existed and where fairy tales like Washington chopping down the apple tree were actual facts rather than allegorical fables.

It’s the thinking of people who are both religious nuts who also know their religion is BS.

5 Bulworth  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 2:10:34pm

I can’t watch at work (although I don’t know that I could stomach the video even if I could watch at work), but what was the essence of Barton’s “critique” (of the movie with bad words he didn’t see)?

6 Ghost of a Goosestepping Obama Tina Brown  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 2:28:54pm

I did not watch the David Barton Video up there. But I feel certain I can give you a 100% accurate critique of it. But I can’t write it here because it has lots of bad words in it!

7 EPR-radar  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 2:30:01pm

By now, it is not necessary to see Barton in action to have a well founded belief that he is engaged in cramming his head up his ass.

8 Mattand  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 2:35:40pm

I’d love to see the names of the LGF readers who criticized you for calling Barton a pseudo-historian. Even the more ardent Magical Balance Fairy acolytes and conservatives who post here seem smart enough to know what a dipshit Barton is.

9 EPR-radar  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 2:38:30pm

re: #8 Mattand

I’d love to see the names of the LGF readers who criticized you for calling Barton a pseudo-historian. Even the more ardent Magical Balance Fairy acolytes and conservatives who post here seem smart enough to know what a dipshit Barton is.

I haven’t seen the comments in question, but I have to believe the critics were focusing on the ‘historian’ part of ‘pseudo-historian’ rather than the ‘pseudo’ part of ‘pseudo historian’. IOW, Barton is not even a pseudo-historian. He is just a liar.

10 thecommodore  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 3:43:06pm

re: #9 EPR-radar

I haven’t seen the comments in question, but I have to believe the critics were focusing on the ‘historian’ part of ‘pseudo-historian’ rather than the ‘pseudo’ part of ‘pseudo historian’. IOW, Barton is not even a pseudo-historian. He is just a liar.

There wasn’t mass criticism, but some did raise the issue that you did.

11 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 7:29:54pm

A fake historian interviewed by a raving freakazoid nut sandwich about the fake historian’s fake movie review.. Sorry but I can’t watch it, there’s just too much FAIL there.

12 palomino  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 7:49:24pm

The fucking movie was rated PG-13. It’s not like there were f-bombs flying all over the place.

What kind of historian avoids something historical because it has some profanity? Surely he knows that even the founding fathers swore on occasion (many of them also drank, smoked, and sometimes played cards and even whored around).

What is this pseudo-historian made of? Sugar and spice and everything nice?

13 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jan 31, 2013 9:08:46pm

re: #12 palomino

The fucking movie was rated PG-13. It’s not like there were f-bombs flying all over the place.

What kind of historian avoids something historical because it has some profanity? Surely he knows that even the founding fathers swore on occasion (many of them also drank, smoked, and sometimes played cards and even whored around).

What is this pseudo-historian made of? Sugar and spice and everything nice?

A crappy one. I bet Barton would flip if he had to be around the real Lincoln who really liked a good dirty joke. Kearns Goodwin in Team of Rivals has some of his jokes that he told and I actually laughed aloud reading them because they were funny naturally and it’s fun to imagine one of our nation’s greatest leaders(some would say greatest) joking around. I can’ wait to see the movie.

14 stabby  Fri, Feb 1, 2013 1:14:04am

Seems appropriate for Barton to write reviews of movies he hasn’t seen. After all his regular job (other than meddling in politics) is to write books describing history he made up whole cloth as well.


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