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1 watching you tiny alien kittens are  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 8:54:41pm

Not cardboard, more like a half size fiberglass mock-up, the close-up cockpit interior shot linked at reddit makes it pretty obvious. So yeah, it is completely fake, and the “flight test” footage is very obviously an RC model plane. Same old Iran and their love of fauxtography and fakes for their propaganda…

It isn’t as though they thought this would fool any western analyst for more than two seconds, so this time the lie seems to be aimed strictly at their own citizenry. :(

2 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 9:52:54pm

re: #1 watching you tiny alien kittens are

Not cardboard, more like a half size fiberglass mock-up, the close-up cockpit interior shot linked at reddit makes it pretty obvious. So yeah, it is completely fake, and the “flight test” footage is very obviously an RC model plane. Same old Iran and their love of fauxtography and fakes for their propaganda…

It isn’t as though they thought this would fool any western analyst for more than two seconds, so this time the lie seems to be aimed strictly at their own citizenry. :(

Agreed. This fighter doesn’t really exist and we needn’t worry about it. The armed scout helo unveiled at the same time, however, does exist. And it and Iran’s Huey Cobra upgrade are things we should worry about a bit. We shouldn’t fear them, but we should up our air defenses a bit in the Gulf.

3 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:14:13pm

re: #2 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. This fighter doesn’t really exist and we needn’t worry about it. The armed scout helo unveiled at the same time, however, does exist. And it and Iran’s Huey Cobra upgrade are things we should worry about a bit. We shouldn’t fear them, but we should up our air defenses a bit in the Gulf.

Meh. A bunch of crappy old “remodeled” Vietnam era helos with a max range of approximately 357 miles. Currently the USS John C. Stennis is on deployment and currently located in the Persian Gulf until April. The 5th Fleet basically goes on rotation so when it goes some other strike group will arrive. There’s no need to up our existing defenses as they currently stand. There are also multiple asset backups in the region extending into Europe.

And here’s the 300 knot max. ASI on that “Papier-mâché” mock-up I mentioned earlier again:

Image: ASI.jpg

4 Gus  Sat, Feb 2, 2013 10:38:27pm
5 Destro  Mon, Feb 4, 2013 7:55:47am

re: #3 Gus

We need to make this scarier than it sounds so we can get more Pentagon budgets restored.

6 nines09  Mon, Feb 4, 2013 9:05:04am

“Iranian Defense Minister Brigadier General Ahmad Vahidi had said, “The aircraft will be different from the other fighter jets Iran has already made.”
You betcha. For starters they’re looking for shorter pilots.

7 celticdragon  Mon, Feb 4, 2013 3:57:37pm

re: #6 nines09

“Iranian Defense Minister Brigadier General Ahmad Vahidi had said, “The aircraft will be different from the other fighter jets Iran has already made.”
You betcha. For starters they’re looking for shorter pilots.

The air inlets are really, really small for any combat AC. The nose gear compartment looks like it would have to take up half the cockpit in order for the nose gear to actually retract. Where the fuck would the hydraulics go?? Also, no room at all in the nose for a radar. This is a fake.

(edit) Something about the canopy was bothering me as well. The reddit guys are all over that. I also saw that there was no HUD mounted, although I was willing to allow for a possible helmet mount display. I am not sure if Iran has developed that however. Lot’s of folks have noticed that all the visible avionics are bullshit. I cannot say anything there since I never learned that side of the aviation house. I spent a couple years as a helicopter door gunner and about ten years as a commercial aircraft mechanic)

8 nines09  Mon, Feb 4, 2013 7:20:36pm

re: #7 celticdragon

Oh it’s as bogus as a three dollar bill alright. It’s a brick with wings.

9 Achilles Tang  Tue, Feb 5, 2013 5:32:07am

Iran is more and more resembling N. Korea in their propaganda.


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