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1 freetoken  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 12:15:47am

linky no worky…

2 Shvaughn  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 12:30:07am

Sounds like child abuse to me.

3 Three Chord Monty  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 12:39:33am

sorry…html brainfart…re: #1 freetoken

linky no worky…

4 jogiff  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 1:26:12am

Atlas Shrugged is terrible and Objectivism makes me ill.

But the irony of the state forcing all students to read an anti-state doorstop is so delicious that I can’t help but smile.

5 Decatur Deb  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 2:47:59am

Could turn Idaho blue.

6 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 3:37:33am

How scandalous. They do realize that the protaganist, Dagny Taggart, is a wanton, aggressive woman who runs a company by herself after displacing her brother, and who indulges in sex without benefit of marriage?
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7 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 3:47:29am

The State Legislature really needs to be involved in the Required Reading List of the Public Schools?

Hope they don’t require too much research into the author, the kids might find out she was an athiest.

8 Three Chord Monty  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 4:04:32am

Pro-choice, too.

re: #5 Decatur Deb

Could turn Idaho blue.

I happen to like it out there, in spite of this sort of nonsense. It’s been a long time since I’ve been an, um, ‘liberal,’ but it’s fair to say my issues with contemporary liberal politics are light years from these folks. Nevertheless, this comment is somewhat tongue-in-cheek…

…but what it would actually take to turn Idaho blue would be to pretty much carve out Boise and the Moscow area, keep calling that Idaho, and call the rest of the place, the newly created 51st State, something like “Duh.” (assuming it hasn’t already been appropriated for some region elsewhere in the country, like, uh, I don’t know, a couple of thousand miles to the southeast?)

Or maybe “Citadel!”

9 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 5:31:56am

“Atlas Shrugged” is a horrible suckfest of bad writing, mostly tedious and boring with occasional shrill outbursts. Its only possible outcome of forcing students to read this steaming Scheisshaufenroman will be to make them hate all forms of literature forever.

10 Joanne  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 6:07:00am

You know, I must be daft or something. I read Atlas Shrugged while I was on vacation in Belize and Guatemala. I quite enjoyed it…as a novel (well, except for that rambling 50+ page John Galt whine-a-thon, which I found completely boring and mostly just skimmed), but not once did I ever consider it as a philosophy. That concept never crossed my mind. At all.

I can’t imagine anyone Going Galt because I found his character pathetic.

11 EiMitch  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 6:36:54am

re: #7 FemNaziBitch

Hope they don’t require too much research into the author, the kids might find out she was an athiest.

Anyone who has actually read that book and didn’t figure out Rand’s an atheist is a f***ing moron. She was hostile to religion, especially in the 50+ pages Joanne skimmed.

Rand gave us atheists a bad name. Ironically, none of the teabaggers aping her backwards-looking economics seem to care.

12 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 6:39:50am

For an interesting take on Atlas Shrugged, I recommend the novel “Ghost Dancer” by John Case. It’s about a terrorist who plans to make the entire country “go Galt” with a homemade EMP.

13 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 6:50:51am

My take on Rand is that she is the Marxist equivalent of a Satanist. As Satanists take the Christian theology and invert it so that good becomes evil and evil becomes good, so Ms. Rand inverted Marxism. Her screeds read like Soviet propaganda except that the ‘rapacious capitalists’ are the heroes rather than the villains.

Maybe I should point this out to Senator Nonini?

Also.

14 Joanne  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 6:57:58am

re: #11 EiMitch

I tried to read it, I swear. But it was so awful I just couldn’t.

Ironically, none of the teabaggers aping her backwards-looking economics seem to care.

Nothing matters if something fits their ideology. They can twist it in any way they want. That she was on government services? No problem. That she was an atheist? No problem! Pro abortion? NO PROBLEM!!11! This holds true for all Republicans and all of their supposed beliefs. Pick and choose should be their tagline.

15 GunstarGreen  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:01:32am

re: #4 jogiff

Atlas Shrugged is terrible and Objectivism makes me ill.

But the irony of the state forcing all students to read an anti-state doorstop is so delicious that I can’t help but smile.

Pretty much. This book is about the horrible oppressive powers of The State™ and how its interference and regulation destroys everything good… now read it because The State™ requires you to do so by law.

The Cult of Rand does not know what irony is, mostly because Rand herself was a joyless husk that made up a ‘philosophy’ to excuse herself for being an enormous antisocial toolbag.

16 Amory Blaine  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:29:00am

How can any one novel be “required”? How fucking stupid.

Here’s a good comment from the article:

I can see why “Atlas Shrugged” would appeal to adolescents.

At it’s core the novel is a justification for selfishness and a self-centered world view. Not hard to imagine teenagers would embrace such simplicity.

Hopefully teachers, like myself, provide context to augment the teaching of the novel that includes a biography of the author. They need to know she died of lung cancer after decades of methamphetamine abuse and cigarette smoking. She kept her husband as a cuckold, enjoying a extra-marital affair lasting, again, decades, with a bleary eyed young sycophant. In her waning years, riddled with cancer, she committed Medicare fraud using a servant’s identity to obtain health care benefits she never contributed to and railed against.

If Goedde were concerned with producing students capable of critical thought and wished to include a female Canadian author he should have started with Margaret Atwood, not Ayn Rand.

The Central Valley School District includes “Anthem” by Rand on their required reading list for Freshman. All the while districts try to ban authors like Sherman Alexie.

17 ReamWorks SKG  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:44:55am

re: #6 Shiplord Kirel

They don’t realize that because none of them have read it!

(I had to read it in AP English in High School. I read the Cliff’s notes, and selected snippets, like that 60 page speech. I did read Anthem.)

I guess the Idahoans didn’t realize that Rand was Jewish! (born Alisa Zinov’yevna Rosenbaum). They never would have approved this if they knew!

18 ReamWorks SKG  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:48:24am
“Pick and choose should be their tagline”

This is a great idea. Republican is the “pick and choose” party.

Even supposed libertarians like Ron Paul “pick and choose.” He approved government funding of the Boy Scouts of America several times, for example.

19 Joanne  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:54:11am

re: #12 Vicious Babushka

For an interesting take on Atlas Shrugged, I recommend the novel “Ghost Dancer” by John Case. It’s about a terrorist who plans to make the entire country “go Galt” with a homemade EMP.

Hey, thanks! I missed your comment. I like this guy’s writing. I was given his Genesis Code at an airport (gotta love frequent travelers…I gave Atlas Shrugged to a British couple in Belize when I finished it) and I really enjoy his work. Thanks! A new book to read! :-)

20 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:54:21am

I had to read The Fountainhead in philosophy and that was bad enough. I love the irony though of this. Since you know these legislators probably think evolution should not be taught in school or they feel that “the controversy should be taught.” I also love the one legislator saying with no irony “That book made my son a Republican” yet we always hear from the right about “indoctrination.” And finally for practical reasons this would be just stupid. I believe AS is around or just over 1000 pages.

21 Joanne  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 7:59:53am

re: #18 ReamWorks SKG

This is a great idea. Republican is the “pick and choose” party.

Even supposed libertarians like Ron Paul “pick and choose.” He approved government funding of the Boy Scouts of America several times, for example.

Not to mention that The Mostest Libertarian of all Libertarians is against choice. Nothing but pick and choose!

22 Interesting Times  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:25:14am

This thread needs moar Officer Barbrady book reviews:

23 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 8:32:17am

re: #22 Interesting Times

This thread needs moar Officer Barbrady book reviews:

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I think it’s interesting that they mocked it considering Parker and Stone are self-described libertarians. Of course, not every libertarian is an Ayn Rand fan. I am still amused by the pick and choose bs I see with many Rand fans. Many of them also claim to be devout Christians and Christianity preaches the virtue of charity while Rand not only doesn’t preach charity, she finds it awful. And of course the whole pro choice thing. Seems to me that a lot of Rand fans just like being told that being greedy and self-righteous douchebags is a good thing.

24 EPR-radar  Wed, Feb 6, 2013 12:03:58pm

re: #23 HappyWarrior

I think it’s interesting that they mocked it considering Parker and Stone are self-described libertarians. Of course, not every libertarian is an Ayn Rand fan. I am still amused by the pick and choose bs I see with many Rand fans. Many of them also claim to be devout Christians and Christianity preaches the virtue of charity while Rand not only doesn’t preach charity, she finds it awful. And of course the whole pro choice thing. Seems to me that a lot of Rand fans just like being told that being greedy and self-righteous douchebags is a good thing.

QFT. See also John Kenneth Galbraith:

“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man’s oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness.”


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Kid's heads are filled with so many nonfacts that when they get out of school they're totally unprepared to do anything. They can't read, they can't write, they can't think. Talk about child abuse. The U.S. school system as a whole qualifies. -- Discussing the state of the education system in America - Playboy magazine, April 1993.