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1 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 7, 2013 9:25:00am

Edited: Oops, wrong thread.

2 Skip Intro  Thu, Feb 7, 2013 9:27:39am
The Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod says the Reverend Rob Morris inadvertently gave the impression that he was involved in joint worship with clergy from other religions. The denomination bars joint worship because it doesn’t want to appear to mix its beliefs with those of other churches.

To Christian Fundamentalists, “other” religions include all Christian churches other than their own.

3 CuriousLurker  Thu, Feb 7, 2013 9:28:35am

Yeah, tolerant religious coexistence, how awful. //

4 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Feb 7, 2013 10:23:11am

Scary part - LCMS is not all that small and they are not even close to the craziest Lutheran synod out there. Check out the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod some time for some folks that make the LCMS look cuddly.

5 Swampwitch  Thu, Feb 7, 2013 11:03:49am

My husband and I had our son baptized in the LCMS church to make his parents happy. A recovering Catholic and budding atheist, I really didn’t know anything about them. At the meeting with the pastor, I got both barrels. I was told that Catholics were all going to hell because we put too much emphasis on good works and charity, and the only way to Heaven was by absolute belief in the strict interpretation of the King James Bible. Good works were unnecessary and the path to Satan. I was also told that the reason Catholics prayed to Mary and the other saints was because we knew that God didn’t listen to us so we needed intermediaries…while their brand of Christianity had the direct line. I guess the highly educated and science believing nuns who taught me in grade school forget to mention this.
The next time we were in an LCMS church was for a cousin’s wedding. I swear, every third sentence out of the pastor’s mouth was an instruction to the bride to obey her husband.
Then at my brother-in-law’s funeral, that particular pastor spent half an hour bitching about the fact that my brother-in-law didn’t go to church every goddamned Sunday, but MAYBE God took pity on him and allowed him into Heaven.
Cut to my father-in-law’s funeral a few years later…my husband and I asked that pastor to please keep that shit to a minimum. He agreed, then proceeded to explain to the congregation that Melvin was a good man, but it wasn’t enough, so everybody pray extra hard that God won’t leave him outside the gates for too many centuries.
When my husband died, his relatives were ticked off…not only was his service not in a church, but the officiant was a female pastor of a non-congregational, all-inclusive, all-welcoming church who managed not to mention God or hell or eternal torment…so no fun for them, and no more invitations to family events for me. Darn.
We like to think that the scary Westboro/Liberty/Fischer kind of evil eKstra Krispy Kristianity is relatively new, but they’ve been around forever, and they’re considered mainstream.

6 steve_davis  Thu, Feb 7, 2013 11:34:35am

re: #5 Swampwitch

You might really just want to consider going Episcopalian. Unless you get stuck with one of our nuttier “really Catholics! Really, really wish we were Dominionist Catholics!” groups, you can’t find a more easy-going group of people, short of Unitarians. Sadly, my experience with atheists on message boards just seems to suggest most of them are triumphalistic assholes. I know that’s unfair, but it’s amazing how much religious bigotry an atheist can cram into 200 words on a message board.

7 Swampwitch  Thu, Feb 7, 2013 12:50:58pm

re: #6 steve_davis

I’m seriously looking into Unitarianism, if only for the social good aspect. They take athiests, any kind of Christian, Jews, Wiccans, hell EVERYBODY. What’s not to like?

8 HappyWarrior  Thu, Feb 7, 2013 1:17:29pm

I just read this. Really they should be apologizing to him for suggesting he did anything wrong. This is really s shitty. 26 innocent people dead and this church is upset because one of their participating in an interfaith vigil gave the “appearance” that the other religions are acceptable? Yeah, what the fuck over.

9 Joanne  Thu, Feb 7, 2013 4:58:48pm

re: #7 Swampwitch

I’m seriously looking into Unitarianism, if only for the social good aspect. They take athiests, any kind of Christian, Jews, Wiccans, hell EVERYBODY. What’s not to like?

My friends joined one and love it. The pastor(?) is a gay woman. The people are friendly, loving, social, and very, very nice.

I don’t do religion, but if I did, that’d be where I’d go.

10 Aligarr  Thu, Feb 7, 2013 6:17:17pm

There are over 2000 christian sects of wildly varying stripe. LOL…with everyone telling each other ” your sect is going straight to hell ” ….it’s gonna be a pretty crowded place . Soon we’re gonna have to make reservations .
I want in on the IPO when Old Nick goes public .

11 Skip Intro  Thu, Feb 7, 2013 7:04:54pm

re: #10 Aligarr

There are over 2000 christian sects of wildly varying stripe. LOL…with everyone telling each other ” your sect is going straight to hell “

What I’ve never understood is if God was capable of creating everything then why the hell does he have such a hard time making his instructions for living so hard to understand? Instead of being clear, he leaves the interpretation to helmet-haired grifters who only agree on one thing: there’s good money to be made in the religion business.

12 Mongo only pawn... in game of life.  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 2:50:19pm

re: #10 Aligarr

There are over 2000 christian sects of wildly varying stripe. LOL…with everyone telling each other ” your sect is going straight to hell ” ….it’s gonna be a pretty crowded place . Soon we’re gonna have to make reservations .
I want in on the IPO when Old Nick goes public .

2000 Christian sects. Then throw in all the “other” religions. Now envision a school operating under a mandated “prayer in school” bill. Now. Pick a prayer.


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