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1 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Feb 7, 2013 12:24:17pm

She should shut up unless she examines him. He’s completely right on that.

There is currently a debate in medicine in whether weight loss, simply on its own, is actually a good thing. There’s some significant morbidity associated with increased weight loss, even voluntary weight loss—

[Link: care.diabetesjournals.org…]

A controversy still exists regarding the role of intentional weight loss for prognosis in nondiabetic healthy subjects, as well as in patients with type 2 diabetes, when weight loss is often a contradiction to the weight increase followed by use of some anti-diabetic drugs. Without evidence from trials, we will never be able to make justified clinical decisions on how and when weight loss should be recommended to risk patients and which methods should be preferred—lifestyle, drugs, or surgical intervention.

Observational studies only represent one first step and are not fully reliable, since rest confounding may sometimes bias the outcome. For example, the background drug medication given to patients losing weight may either increase or decrease the likelihood of achieving weight loss, but at the same time reduce risk of morbidity and mortality. One well-known example of this is the use of β-receptor blockers for secondary prevention after myocardial infarction (41). Even if a weight increase is likely to occur after the use of these drugs, thus providing harder conditions for any weight loss, the cardiovascular risk is decreased and that is what matters the most.

2 EPR-radar  Thu, Feb 7, 2013 12:28:40pm

re: #1 Obdicut

Agreed that a doctor should know better than to pull a diagnosis out of thin air.

However, it is also reasonable for voters to mind the statistics, and pay extra attention to Christie’s running mate.

3 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Feb 7, 2013 12:40:45pm

re: #2 EPR-radar

Agreed that a doctor should know better than to pull a diagnosis out of thin air.

However, it is also reasonable for voters to mind the statistics, and pay extra attention to Christie’s running mate.

I really, really, really, really disagree. If you take this sort of attitude, then that penalizes everybody who has any sort of illness or weakness. I don’t think that’s fair, unless whatever it is has a really, really high statistical likelihood of killing or incapacitating them.

4 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Feb 7, 2013 12:48:20pm

Destro, calling Christie out for being anti-science and then downdinging me for posting a scientific journal article is a cool irony move. I hope you had a cat to stroke at the same time, and perhaps a monocle to twirl.

5 EPR-radar  Thu, Feb 7, 2013 12:50:48pm

re: #3 Obdicut

I really, really, really, really disagree. If you take this sort of attitude, then that penalizes everybody who has any sort of illness or weakness. I don’t think that’s fair, unless whatever it is has a really, really high statistical likelihood of killing or incapacitating them.

I suspect we agree in principle, and disagree over where the statistical threshold falls. For me, morbid obesity is over that threshold, while simply being overweight is well under this threshold.

Also, in a US presidential election, the influence of a VP selection is usually close to zero. It doesn’t take much to move the needle a little further away from zero.

6 Destro  Thu, Feb 7, 2013 1:04:54pm

re: #5 EPR-radar

I suspect we agree in principle, and disagree over where the statistical threshold falls. For me, morbid obesity is over that threshold, while simply being overweight is well under this threshold.

Also, in a US presidential election, the influence of a VP selection is usually close to zero. It doesn’t take much to move the needle a little further away from zero.

Christie suffers from asthma attacks on top of hie weight issue. He is not healthy in the least.

7 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Feb 7, 2013 1:10:45pm

re: #5 EPR-radar

I suspect we agree in principle, and disagree over where the statistical threshold falls. For me, morbid obesity is over that threshold, while simply being overweight is well under this threshold.

Also, in a US presidential election, the influence of a VP selection is usually close to zero. It doesn’t take much to move the needle a little further away from zero.

I really think it’s highly dangerous ground to start parsing it down to lifestyle stuff. The among a candidate drives around is probably the single biggest predictor of whether they’ll die. Or how many showers they take. We are all but grass, man.

8 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 7, 2013 1:49:44pm

re: #6 Destro

Christie suffers from asthma attacks on top of hie weight issue. He is not healthy in the least.

Really? Have you seen his health records?

9 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Feb 7, 2013 2:33:14pm

I wonder how different the world we live in would be if these people were not allowed run for president because of their asthma.

U.S. Presidents with asthma

Did you know there are several U.S. Presidents that suffered from asthma? If you are an asthma sufferer, imagine having asthma during a time when natural remedies were used to treat symptoms. Adrenaline, the first modern medication used for asthma, was not prescribed until the 1920’s!

According to the AAFA of Southern California, the following lists the U.S. Presidents and Vice President that suffered from asthma:

Martin Van Buren
8th President of the United States (1782-1862)

Theodore (Teddy) Roosevelt
26th President of the United States (1858-1919)

Woodrow Wilson
28th President of the United States (1856-1924)

Calvin Coolidge
30th President of the United States (1872-1933)

John F. Kennedy
35th President of the United States (1917-1963)

Walter Mondale
Former U.S. Vice President (1928- )

10 theheat  Thu, Feb 7, 2013 4:03:48pm

I haven’t seen his health records, but I do know a little bit about exercising, and the man does not look healthy. He looks like a quick trip to the mailbox would have him winded, and if he had to run from a bear he’d be bear food. And all that fat surrounding your organs? Making your heart work that hard to cart yourself around? Not a good idea.


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