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1 Tigger2  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 4:00:55am

I agree, it was well thought out.

2 Tigger2  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 5:49:11am

re: #1 Tigger2

I agree, it was well thought out.

But I don’t agree with what he’s doing.

3 Joanne  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 5:49:25am

I read a redacted version last night (all the names were removed) and it was not rambling at all. It was very disturbing - all around. And very, very sad.

I keep seeing what a liberal, anti-gun dirtbag this guy is. Amazing how people are so narrow in vision.

I hope that all of his claims are investigated and if the claims are found to be true, something happens. The citizens deserve that.

4 celticdragon  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 6:43:59am

re: #3 Joanne

I read a redacted version last night (all the names were removed) and it was not rambling at all. It was very disturbing - all around. And very, very sad.

I keep seeing what a liberal, anti-gun dirtbag this guy is. Amazing how people are so narrow in vision.

I hope that all of his claims are investigated and if the claims are found to be true, something happens. The citizens deserve that.

Not gonna happen. The very fact that he has murdered people will protect the LAPD from any outside investigation. Unfortunately, I add, since I do think the guy may well have had real basis for the accusations he made.

5 Sionainn  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 7:21:41am

Wow.

6 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 7:35:46am

re: #4 celticdragon

Not gonna happen. The very fact that he has murdered people will protect the LAPD from any outside investigation. Unfortunately, I add, since I do think the guy may well have had real basis for the accusations he made.

This retired cop says Dorner’s claims about the LAPD might be true but does not support his actions.

From the comments:

Ronald Williams
FEBRUARY 7, 2013 @ 11:01 AM
I am a retired police lieutenant from the LAPD. I will say this from personal experience. While the LAPD deems racism and recist remarks and acts wrong, those wrongs are not considered to be serious. This of course conflicts with Afro-Americans – officers and civilians – who consider such extremely serious. I had a similar incident where I witnessed a police sergeant with tenure spit in a handcuffed officers’ face. Fortunately, current council person Parks, then a Captain was the official I voiced my complaints. Appropriate discipline was metted out. Even though I rose through the ranks, I had like the officer now turned suspect, had a reputation of not supporting police misconduct against citizens but responding to it, Officers like that are literally sitting on a time bomb within the LAPD. One false step and the bomb explodes. His well reasoned story with references sounds convincing. It does not justify his response

7 philosophus invidius  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 10:41:10am

I see a “Django Unchained” reference in there, which I suspect will be played up. But he doesn’t claim inspiration from the movie. Instead it is part of a bizarre list of pop culture musings. Like: “It’s kind of sad I won’t be around to view and enjoy The Hangover III. What an awesome trilogy.”; “Tebow, I really wanted to see you take charge of an offense again and the game. You are not a good QB by todays standards, but you are a great football player who knows how to lead a team and WIN.”; “Christopher Walz, you impressed me in Inglorious Basterds. After viewing Django Unchained, I was sold. I have come to the conclusion that you are well on your way to becoming one of the greats”

Seems like he is a sick individual whose suicidal rampage gives him a feeling of (finally) being powerful and influential, as if people might actually care about his views on politics and movies.

“No more Virginia Tech, Columbine HS, Wisconsin temple, Aurora theatre, Portland malls, Tucson rally, Newtown Sandy Hook. Whether by executive order or thru a bi-partisan congress an assault weapons ban needs to be re-instituted. Period!!!”

And yet he just murdered 2 innocent people to get revenge on a woman’s father.

8 Skip Intro  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 11:52:27am

re: #3 Joanne

I read a redacted version last night (all the names were removed) and it was not rambling at all. It was very disturbing - all around. And very, very sad.

I keep seeing what a liberal, anti-gun dirtbag this guy is. Amazing how people are so narrow in vision.

I hope that all of his claims are investigated and if the claims are found to be true, something happens. The citizens deserve that.

He makes one hell of a good point here, not that it will get any traction. He’s the poster child why the weapons he’s using shouldn’t be sold the the general public.

No amount of IMINT, MASINT, and ELINT assist you in capturing me. I am off the grid. You better use your feet, tongue and every available DOD/ NON-DOD HUMINT agency, contractor to find me. I know your route to and from home, and your division. I know your significant others routine, your children’s best friends and recess. I know Your Sancha’s gym hours and routine. I assure you that the casualty rate will be high. Because of that, no one will remember your name. You will merely be a DR# and “that guy” who was KIA/EOW or long term IOD/light duty in the kit room. This is exactly why “station 500″ was created. Unfortunately, orphanages will be making a comeback in the 21st century.

If you had a well regulated AWB, this would not happen. The time is now to reinstitute a ban that will save lives. Why does any sportsman need a 30 round magazine for hunting? Why does anyone need a suppressor? Why does anyone need a AR15 rifle? This is the same small arms weapons system utilized in eradicating Al Qaeda, Taliban, and every enemy combatant since the Vietnam war. Don’t give me that crap that its not a select fire or full auto rifle like the DoD uses. That’s bullshit because troops who carry the M-4/M-16 weapon system for combat ops outside the wire rarely utilize the select fire function when in contact with enemy combatants. The use of select fire probably isn’t even 1% in combat. So in essence, the AR-15 semiautomatic rifle is the same as the M-4/M-16. These do not need to be purchased as easily as walking to your local Walmart or striking the enter key on your keyboard to “add to cart”. All the firearms utilized in my activities are registered to me and were legally purchased at gun stores and private party transfers. All concealable weapons (pistols) were also legally register in my name at police stations or FFL’s. Unfortunately, are you aware that I obtained class III weapons (suppressors) without a background check thru NICS or DROS completely LEGALLY several times? I was able to use a trust account that I created on quicken will maker and a $10 notary charge at a mailbox etc. to obtain them legally. Granted, I am not a felon, nor have a DV misdemeanor conviction or active TRO against me on a NCIC file. I can buy any firearm I want, but should I be able to purchase these class III weapons (SBR’s, and suppressors) without a background check and just a $10 notary signature on a quicken will maker program? The answer is NO. I’m not even a resident of the state i purchased them in. Lock n Load just wanted money so they allow you to purchase class III weapons with just a notarized trust, military ID. Shame on you, Lock n Load. NFA and ATF need new laws and policies that do not allow loopholes such as this. In the end, I hope that you will realize that the small arms I utilize should not be accessed with the ease that I obtained them. Who in there right mind needs a fucking silencer!!! who needs a freaking SBR AR15? No one. No more Virginia Tech, Columbine HS, Wisconsin temple, Aurora theatre, Portland malls, Tucson rally, Newtown Sandy Hook. Whether by executive order or thru a bi-partisan congress an assault weapons ban needs to be re-instituted. Period!!!

9 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 5:54:31pm

re: #8 Skip Intro

He makes one hell of a good point here, not that it will get any traction. He’s the poster child why the weapons he’s using shouldn’t be sold the the general public.

Unfortunately, are you aware that I obtained class III weapons (suppressors) without a background check thru NICS or DROS completely LEGALLY several times? I was able to use a trust account that I created on quicken will maker and a $10 notary charge at a mailbox etc. to obtain them legally. Granted, I am not a felon, nor have a DV misdemeanor conviction or active TRO against me on a NCIC file. I can buy any firearm I want, but should I be able to purchase these class III weapons (SBR’s, and suppressors) without a background check and just a $10 notary signature on a quicken will maker program? The answer is NO. I’m not even a resident of the state i purchased them in. Lock n Load just wanted money so they allow you to purchase class III weapons with just a notarized trust, military ID. Shame on you, Lock n Load. NFA and ATF need new laws and policies that do not allow loopholes such as this. In the end, I hope that you will realize that the small arms I utilize should not be accessed with the ease that I obtained them. Who in there right mind needs a fucking silencer!!

He’s full of shit. Even buying with a trust the trust has to pay the $200 NFA tax stamp and wait four to eight months for the ATF to investigate the trustees. The only thing that the trust obviates is the need for chief local law enforcement to sign off on the Form 1 or transfer, and since Dorner was exempted in CA as a police officer any ease he had in acquiring a suppressor was more likely due to his law enforcement status. The question, again, is why does California treat police like a special class of citizen with regard to private purchases, that’s the policy that’s biting the state in the ass right now.

Lots of people use suppressors where it’s legal for the legitimate purpose of preserving hearing and in order to plink and hunt without disturbing their rural neighbors. In New Zealand firearms suppressors are incredibly popular and aren’t regulated at all, they’re sold without any government oversight or involvement whatsoever.

10 goddamnedfrank  Fri, Feb 8, 2013 6:02:42pm

Other countries where suppressors are freely available and unregulated, such third world shitholes as Finland, France, and Norway.


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