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1 Goosestepping Obama Tina Brown  Sun, Feb 10, 2013 3:53:44pm

First things first BENGHAZI!!!! /////

I really hope we can.

2 Skip Intro  Sun, Feb 10, 2013 4:21:59pm

It’s the guy’s fault because he didn’t shop around for the best deal before going to the hospital.

3 aagcobb  Sun, Feb 10, 2013 4:40:34pm

Soon, thanks to the ACA, far fewer people should be in this unfortunate position.

4 subterraneanhomesickalien  Sun, Feb 10, 2013 5:02:31pm

Greatest country on Earth folks.

5 JeffFX  Sun, Feb 10, 2013 5:14:09pm

re: #2 Skip Intro

The guy did get on a motorcycle with no health insurance, so he got himself into that situation. It’s weird how the article says that the road made an unexpected turn, rather than the rider lacked the skills and awareness of his surroundings to handle his bike safely. Responders can’t just let someone walk away with a head injury, or they can have their lives wrecked, so the only person who could have avoided the whole situation was the negligent rider.

I sold my bike when I was out of work and uninsured, because riding it could have gotten me into a situation like this.

This idiot’s life hasn’t been ruined, he just needs to quit whining and pay his bill or declare bankruptcy. This is what happens when we don’t behave responsibly, but in America he won’t go to debtors prison, and instead will walk away from his debt if he lacks the means to pay.

6 Skip Intro  Sun, Feb 10, 2013 5:17:28pm

re: #4 subterraneanhomesickalien

Greatest country on Earth folks.

It always cracks me up reading recommendations that if you think you have any of the symptoms of a heart attack, stroke, etc. go to the emergency room immediately!.

In a modern first world country that’s absolutely true. Here, even with insurance, you’ll hit your deductible in about four hours, then 30% of all additional costs come out of your pocket. It makes for a pretty expensive night on the town , so most people wait until they’re damn near dead before doing it.

7 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Feb 10, 2013 5:20:20pm

re: #5 JeffFX

The guy did get on a motorcycle with no health insurance, so he got himself into that situation. It’s weird how the article says that the road made an unexpected turn, rather than the rider lacked the skills and awareness of his surroundings to handle his bike safely. Responders can’t just let someone walk away with a head injury, or they can have their lives wrecked, so the only person who could have avoided the whole situation was the negligent rider.

I sold my bike when I was out of work and uninsured, because riding it could have gotten me into a situation like this.

This idiot’s life hasn’t been ruined, he just needs to quit whining and pay his bill or declare bankruptcy. This is what happens when we don’t behave responsibly, but in America he won’t go to debtors prison, and instead will walk away from his debt if he lacks the means to pay.

The thing is that bankruptcy can make it harder to get a job in the first place and it often forecloses any sort of management position as long as its on your credit report.

8 Awea  Sun, Feb 10, 2013 5:22:10pm

I can see the guys point.

I just had a kidney stone. Never had one before, didn’t what was happen, so I called 911, ambulance, emergency room, cat scan. 5,000.00 buck. I got insurance, but still, I would have second thoughts if I had chest pains, as I would not want to over react.

9 JeffFX  Sun, Feb 10, 2013 5:40:47pm

re: #7 Dark_Falcon

The thing is that bankruptcy can make it harder to get a job in the first place and it often forecloses any sort of management position as long as its on your credit report.

I’ve been through a bankruptcy when I lost my job, my mind, and my house. There’s no stigma attached to it at all since the financial crash, and it didn’t cause me any trouble finding a good position as a developer / data analyst. Everyone involved with the bankruptcy process was very understanding and nice, and it was the first step in getting my life back.

10 JeffFX  Sun, Feb 10, 2013 5:42:41pm

re: #8 Awea

I can see the guys point.

I just had a kidney stone. Never had one before, didn’t what was happen, so I called 911, ambulance, emergency room, cat scan. 5,000.00 buck. I got insurance, but still, I would have second thoughts if I had chest pains, as I would not want to over react.

If your life is worth more to you than the contents of your wallet, you don’t screw around with chest-pains. My mother had no insurance and didn’t dial 911, so her fiance found her dead on her couch.

11 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:16:13pm
12 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:51:09pm

re: #5 JeffFX

Sure, we can say it’s his fault all we want, but it’s not going to fix the systemic problem. And he can go bankrupt, but that still means that the taxpayers and patients who actually could pay are already subsidizing his care. The system is broken; he didn’t break it.

13 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Feb 10, 2013 6:56:37pm

Shit, how about we make health insurance necessary to get a driver’s license?

14 ReamWorks SKG  Sun, Feb 10, 2013 7:02:33pm

re: #8 Awea

I’ve always wondered. Even though we “see” the bill for, say, $5,000, does the insurance company really pay that much for a CAT scan?

I suspect that people who are “means tested out” of Medicare, as some propose to do, will be paying many times more than the insurance company would pay for the same care.

15 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Feb 10, 2013 7:13:50pm

re: #14 ReamWorks SKG

The insurance company pays a set price. This is part of why medical billing is such a nightmare.

16 aagcobb  Sun, Feb 10, 2013 9:51:10pm

re: #15 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

The insurance company pays a set price. This is part of why medical billing is such a nightmare.

When I had a routine surgery a couple of years ago, I got an infection so I had to stay in the hospital an extra week. I added up all the hospital and doctor bills, and they exceeded $100k before the insurance write downs.


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