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1 Sionainn  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 7:42:15am

Too bad Mahoney tried to cover for the Church by not turning these priests over to the police.

2 Skip Intro  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 9:39:16am
But the documents suggest that Mahony at times had to press an unresponsive Vatican to get molesting priests out of the church.

God’s personal church moves in mysterious ways.

3 Aligarr  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 10:21:44am

considering the first call should have went to police and not the Vatican

4 eightyfiv  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 11:11:02am

re: #3 Aligarr

Considering that this was just after the ’80s satanic sex abuse hysteria, it’s not hard to see why folks were reluctant to trust the police…

5 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 11:26:17am

re: #4 eightyfiv

Why? Because some innocent people get arrested, then a series of accusations that Mahoney clearly believed shouldn’t be dealt with?

You’ve got to be shitting me. You’re excusing not reporting the rape of children to police because of these entirely unrelated cases?

6 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 11:34:29am

He wasn’t reluctant to contact the police, either. He just didn’t contact the police. Even after the Vatican pushed back and kept the priests in the church. He just kept covering it up.

7 Achilles Tang  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 12:52:13pm

re: #4 eightyfiv

Considering that this was just after the ’80s satanic sex abuse hysteria, it’s not hard to see why folks were reluctant to trust the police…

Stupidest post of the day, so far. Got any more?

8 eightyfiv  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 3:04:22pm

re: #5 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

I like your sense of justice. Guilty until proven innocent, when children are concerned? Have fun witch-hunting.

This isn’t like adult rape cases, where claiming false accusation is your standard throwaway defense. Parents get *scared* and inadvertently extract lies from their kids. Check out those cases — the criminal justice handling was (and might still be) a complete mess. Accused might as well be guilty. Do you really want to equate the two? Innocent folks spent years, even decades in jail owing to that attitude.

And thanks for the brilliant repostes. Wow. “Stupid” sure showed me.

9 Achilles Tang  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 3:30:16pm

re: #8 eightyfiv

Stupid is the word indeed. The reason the church didn’t (all over the planet by the way) is that they didn’t trust the police not to jail the priests. Are you not aware that it was priests (and Cardinals, and Popes) who knew the truth, often from confession by the pedophiles?

Your argument, I say again, is stupid.

10 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Feb 17, 2013 3:48:27pm

re: #8 eightyfiv

I like your sense of justice. Guilty until proven innocent, when children are concerned? Have fun witch-hunting.

How is getting the police to actually arrest someone ‘guilty until proven innocent’?

This isn’t like adult rape cases, where claiming false accusation is your standard throwaway defense. Parents get *scared* and inadvertently extract lies from their kids. Check out those cases — the criminal justice handling was (and might still be) a complete mess. Accused might as well be guilty. Do you really want to equate the two? Innocent folks spent years, even decades in jail owing to that attitude.

I really have no fucking clue what you’re saying. You should report child abuse cases even when you really believe the abuse is occurring, you have a systemic record of the same guy abusing kids, because sometimes there are false accusations?


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