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1 EiMitch  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:16:23pm

Erm, pay a little more attention to detail. This is the guy convicted for 1993 attack on the wtc, not the 2001 attack. He only killed six. Granted, he intended a much higher body-count. But throwing the ‘01 numbers at the ‘93 guy who has since been locked in solitary isn’t technically right.

Enough nitpicking. Moving on.

If I were that judge, I’d say “hell no! Barring your conviction being overturned, there is only one way you’re leaving solitary confinement. Speaking of which, I’ll give you the option of being taken off of suicide watch. But thats about it.”

2 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 12:20:47pm

re: #1 EiMitch

Erm, pay a little more attention to detail. This is the guy convicted for 1993 attack on the wtc, not the 2001 attack. He only killed six. Granted, he intended a much higher body-count. But throwing the ‘01 numbers at the ‘93 guy who has since been locked in solitary isn’t technically right.

Enough nitpicking. Moving on.

If I were that judge, I’d say “hell no! Barring your conviction being overturned, there is only one way you’re leaving solitary confinement. Speaking of which, I’ll give you the option of being taken off of suicide watch. But thats about it.”

You are right about the WTC attack of 1993. I stand corrected. Still I don’t think he should get out of solitary. May he continue to rot in prison.

3 Achilles Tang  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 1:52:03pm

I have no sympathy whatsoever for this type, and punishment is all that can be applied short of execution. However it is a fact that extreme solitary confinement is mentally damaging to humans in general, and I suppose I would question whether even for someone like this it could not be called a form of torture. I don’t however know what could be done differently. Certainly he cannot be allowed to dictate terms.

4 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Feb 18, 2013 2:07:11pm

re: #3 Achilles Tang

I have no sympathy whatsoever for this type, and punishment is all that can be applied short of execution. However it is a fact that extreme solitary confinement is mentally damaging to humans in general, and I suppose I would question whether even for someone like this it could not be called a form of torture. I don’t however know what could be done differently. Certainly he cannot be allowed to dictate terms.

If he is suffering, it is because he still poses a risk. Radical Islamists like him are a greater danger than most inmates because they so often try to turn other inmates into Islamists. No, the ‘blind sheik’ represents to great a danger to be given access to other inmates. The suffering he endures for posing that danger is irrelevant; The relevant fact is that he is a danger.

5 Aligarr  Tue, Feb 19, 2013 2:01:01am

Solitary IS a form of torture/extraordinary punishment and should only be used to punish as to correct behavior in the prison environment .He can be isolated with other hardcore muslims of which I’m sure we have no shortage of . If we didn’t have the balls to execute him , then we should not torture him .

6 Billy the Weatherman  Tue, Feb 19, 2013 4:16:30am

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

If he is suffering, it is because he still poses a risk. Radical Islamists like him are a greater danger than most inmates because they so often try to turn other inmates into Islamists. No, the ‘blind sheik’ represents to great a danger to be given access to other inmates. The suffering he endures for posing that danger is irrelevant; The relevant fact is that he is a danger.

This would be a worth while statement if the United States Constitution didn’t include the Eighth Amendment.

7 Jayleia  Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:17:29am

I would like him to suffer. That’s probably almost hardwired into our neurons.

I have to try to temper that desire for vengeance. As long as he is secure, and kept away from the outside world, I would be in favor of him having some additional contact. Isolation, especially long-term can have some horrible effects on people and I wouldn’t wish those effects on anyone.

Of course, all of that should have strict supervision and be in limited times.

8 HappyWarrior  Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:25:10am

I’d feel bad if this was a guy who killed someone in a fit of passion but this guy was involved in a carefully planned bombing. So, this is a case where this bleeding heart doesn’t bleed.

9 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Feb 19, 2013 10:29:32am

re: #3 Achilles Tang

I have no sympathy whatsoever for this type, and punishment is all that can be applied short of execution. However it is a fact that extreme solitary confinement is mentally damaging to humans in general, and I suppose I would question whether even for someone like this it could not be called a form of torture. I don’t however know what could be done differently. Certainly he cannot be allowed to dictate terms.

He should have thought about the consequences of trying to murder thousands of people before he took part in that attack. He can whine and play the ‘Woe is me’ card all he wants but as a terrorist he’s right where he belongs.

10 Aligarr  Tue, Feb 19, 2013 4:27:15pm

Serial killers and pedophile/murderers dont get solitary , unless they misbehave in prison . And even that is not permanent unless the offender proves incorrigable and a danger to himself and others . Solitary confinement is inhumane , we are better than that .

11 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:48:03pm

re: #6 Billy the Weatherman

He’s not being held under SpeciaL Administrative Measures (SLAM, the L was deliberately capitalized) as a punishment; He is being held under those conditions because he kept exercising a leadership role within the Muslim Brotherhood after being sent to prison. It’s like Jeff Felt, who ran the P-Stone Rangers (a very large Chicago street gang) for decades from his cell in Ft. Leavenworth. When his doing so was finally proven he was transferred to ADX Florence Supermax and his contact with the outside world greatly restricted. The ‘Blind Sheik’ is getting the same treatment for the same reason.

BTW, Jeff Felt was just the sort William Ayers thought was some kind of hero, so have another downding for your nic.

12 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Feb 19, 2013 6:50:22pm

re: #10 Aligarr

Serial killers and pedophile/murderers dont get solitary , unless they misbehave in prison . And even that is not permanent unless the offender proves incorrigable and a danger to himself and others . Solitary confinement is inhumane , we are better than that .

He’s an Islamist terror master, thus protecting the public from his evil intentions comes before what is fair or even humane for him. The Constitution is not a suicide pact.

13 Tigger2005  Tue, Feb 19, 2013 7:13:28pm

I’m probably compassionate to a fault, but it’s not going to endanger anybody or lessen his punishment much to let him have some human contact. If he goes literally insane from isolation would he even be aware he’s incarcerated?

14 spiderx  Tue, Feb 19, 2013 9:40:57pm

long term solitary confinement is torture.

We shouldn’t be putting any prisoner through this. It’s immoral. It’s deranged actually. Only a deranged psychopathic country would do this.

We actually put routine criminals in long term solitary. Google it.

15 Aligarr  Wed, Feb 20, 2013 11:51:49am

re: #12 Dark_Falcon

It is not a license to torture either .We can always pull out his fingernails one at a time .

16 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Feb 20, 2013 12:14:12pm

re: #12 Dark_Falcon

He’s not a wizard.

17 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Feb 20, 2013 6:46:21pm

re: #15 Aligarr

It is not a license to torture either .We can always pull out his fingernails one at a time .

This is not like torture. The object of torture is to inflict pain, disorientation, or humiliation on the subject. The object of SLAM is to prevent its subject from communicating with his criminal or terrorist confederates; Such suffering as it inflicts is incidental. The latter is on far firmer ground than the former.

18 Aligarr  Wed, Feb 20, 2013 10:20:20pm

re: #16 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Nor are you .


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