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1 HappyWarrior  Wed, Feb 20, 2013 12:41:59pm

Yeah but we can’t even discuss the easy access to guns that Lanza had. Nope, blame the video games. Because there were no acts of mass violence before video games were invented. Oh wait………

2 Mongo only pawn... in game of life.  Wed, Feb 20, 2013 12:55:27pm

I think it is also a medical fact that somewhere along the line Glenn has hit his head once too often, once too hard. Swimming in the shallow end of the gene pool and repeatedly diving in head first will do that.

3 Major Tom  Wed, Feb 20, 2013 2:15:36pm

Am I wrong here, or is what they are saying, or hinting at, that people (maybe just teens and young adults) are influenced by simulated violence to commit actual acts of violence in the real world. Regardless of whether you play the ‘good guy’ or the ‘bad guy,’ if it is violent, it effects you in, for lack of a better word, evil ways…


‘Medically speaking,’ how is that any different than what police officers and current/former military veterans hav been exposed to in combat? How do these seperate events effect the brains of these people in ways that set them apart? If someone advocates this video game theory, I’d love an answer.

4 Destro  Wed, Feb 20, 2013 7:33:55pm

re: #3 Major Tom

How is shooting a real gun meant to kill real people at real targets in the shape of real people not violent but clicking buttons on XBOX is somehow worse?

Also, why do Japanese people handle video games better than Americans if this video game theory is true?

Now excuse me while I play Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 4 while listening to some black metal.

5 Major Tom  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 6:19:03am

Maybe I wasn’t clear. I don’t support the viseo game theory. What I’m asking is, for people who do advocate that violent video games inspire violent acts, how is that any different then actual violent acts done, regardless of the reasons behind it? No one differentiates between playing the soldier or police officer in a violent game, then why should actual soldiers and police officers who have engaged in gun battles have a different reaction to violence?

You feel me?

6 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 6:24:51am

Do you know which nation plays MOAR VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES per capita than any other country?

JAPAN!

ZOMG VIOLENT VIDEO GAMEZ CAUSED TEH BATAAN DEATH MARCH!!!11TY

7 Jayleia  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 6:48:43am

re: #5 Major Tom

Because they shoot at badguys. If Lanza played villainous chars in video games, THEN there might be some way to tie it together. We need to investigate his savegames!

Or…maybe they’re just morons.

8 jhncsy  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 6:50:27am

I think this is a conversation worth having!

So, assuming there’s any value to Mr. Beck’s paranoid ravings, then there’s something about video games that turns a very small percentage of its audience into killers, and ignores the rest of us. Brainwashing is out, because that’s stupid. What video games do is sell a power fantasy. In Grand Theft Auto, you can run around stealing cars and shooting up prostitutes. In Halo, you can grab bigger and better guns, plan strategies with your team, and earn points for killing people. In Dishonored, you can freeze time, possess a guard, walk in front of the bullet he just fired, unfreeze time, and then laugh as the guard is killed by his own bullet. Also, summon plague rats.

But, video games don’t sell power fantasies about the real world. While it would be nice if I could teleport anywhere I please, and own a laser cannon, that fantasy ends when I turn off the XBox. The whole point of video games is to indulge in the sort of crap that you can’t do in the real world.

Meanwhile, Glenn Beck and the NRA are also selling power fantasies. They rant and rave about Muslim conspirators, and thugs who happen to be black (don’t call them racist!), and how the black Muslim socialist thug in office is plotting to ruin your life by giving your stuff to the undeserving. And then, they tell you that you’re on your own, that only you can protect your freedom by being a badass and owning a gun.

And then, they act all shocked when their target audience believes the power fantasy and acts on it.

9 Robur  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 7:03:28am

So Beck..by your criteria..Alcohol and Moron,sorry Mormonism were your gateway drugs to the world of Bizzarro! No Beckerhead!! The GUN culture was Adam Lanza’s “gateway” drug! plus having a paranoid guv’ment fearing mother with not the common sense to keep her firearms PROPERLY safe from his crazy azz!

10 Major Tom  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 7:32:42am

I wasn’t advocating a poition, but asking what the connection is in the argument regarding video games and violence, and how that is seperated from real world actions…

What’s with the down dings? For asking how a simulated universe is percieved as having an effect on the real one, and yet real world experiences aren’t treated as being directly relatable to real world experiences in the same way…

If the question bothers you you have thin skin I think. My question remains. Jayleia, I see what you’re saying, but I don’t think the Becks of the world are making that distinction, and yes they are morons.

11 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 7:35:10am

re: #8 jhncsy

Very well put.

12 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 7:36:27am

re: #10 Major Tom

I get what you’re saying. Basically, if playing COD on the Xbox where you shoot soldiers makes you into a spree killer, then doesn’t actually going to war, actually being trained as a soldier make people into killers too? And obviously, the answer is no. Even training people to be willing to kill and the techniques to do it doesn’t make veterans any more likely to commit homicide than any other group.

13 Major Tom  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 7:59:14am

Exactly GB. Thanks for helping me clarify the issue I have with this nonsense.

14 Major Tom  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 8:02:05am

I’d like to see this argument brought before Beck or another person advocating this theory, to see how they’d respond, besides saying, “It’s different.”

15 Kronocide  Thu, Feb 21, 2013 11:13:02am

In my medical opinion Beck instigates more violence than the most violent of video games.


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