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1 kmg  Fri, Feb 22, 2013 4:10:59pm

What do you do? Well, for starters you can change how someone acquires U.S. citizenship. Maybe just being born in the States shouldn’t be the only qualification. Maybe you should also be required to be born to an American citizen to be able to acquire citizenship. Other countries require it…

2 wrenchwench  Fri, Feb 22, 2013 5:00:41pm

re: #1 kmg

What do you do? Well, for starters you can change how someone acquires U.S. citizenship. Maybe just being born in the States shouldn’t be the only qualification. Maybe you should also be required to be born to an American citizen to be able to acquire citizenship. Other countries require it…

Why should we stoop to their level?

3 jamesfirecat  Fri, Feb 22, 2013 6:08:35pm

re: #1 kmg

What do you do? Well, for starters you can change how someone acquires U.S. citizenship. Maybe just being born in the States shouldn’t be the only qualification. Maybe you should also be required to be born to an American citizen to be able to acquire citizenship. Other countries require it…

Other countries have perminant under classes of resident non citizens, is it fair to Have people who where born here and spend their entire lives here, but not have the same rights as others because of who their parents were?


What if these non citzens who were born in America live their entire lives here and have kids, are those kids non citizens also?

4 kmg  Sat, Feb 23, 2013 11:34:57am

re: #3 jamesfirecat

Just throw open the doors then and you’ll end up like those other countries anyways, citizenship or no citizenship. Seems like your doors are wide open anyways. Just give everyone citizenship and soon there will be no more third world countries as everyone will be living in the U.S. And give everyone food stamps and healthcare and soon you’ll be looking like Greece.

5 jamesfirecat  Sat, Feb 23, 2013 12:03:57pm

re: #4 kmg

Just throw open the doors then and you’ll end up like those other countries anyways, citizenship or no citizenship. Seems like your doors are wide open anyways. Just give everyone citizenship and soon there will be no more third world countries as everyone will be living in the U.S. And give everyone food stamps and healthcare and soon you’ll be looking like Greece.

I have no comments on this because you refrain from asking any questions or answering any of the questions I raised.

If you are born here and are not a citizen because your parents were not citizens, if you marry someone else who has lived here their entire lives but were born to parents who were not citizens, should your children be citizens?

6 wrenchwench  Sat, Feb 23, 2013 12:11:26pm

I’ll just post my reply to Mr. Steller’s tweet (seen at the top).

7 kirkspencer  Sat, Feb 23, 2013 12:36:46pm

re: #1 kmg

What do you do? Well, for starters you can change how someone acquires U.S. citizenship. Maybe just being born in the States shouldn’t be the only qualification. Maybe you should also be required to be born to an American citizen to be able to acquire citizenship. Other countries require it…

“Other countries require it.” Name the ones that require to be born of existing citizens to be a citizen. And yes, I will be asking if you really want to use them as your role models for the US.

8 kmg  Sun, Feb 24, 2013 2:41:14pm

re: #7 kirkspencer

Google it yourself. But check out how one acquires citizenship in Germany and other European countries. Just being born in a country does not automatically give you citizenship, if born to someone not there legally. I personally think it’s any given Country’s responsibility to the citizens it already has to carefully pick and choose who it allows to gain citizenship.

Why don’t you just throw open the doors to you home to street people? They need shelter and food and you have it. If this idea doesn’t appeal to you, then it shouldn’t appeal to you on a much larger scale either.

Time to take off the rose coloured glasses, losers.

9 wrenchwench  Sun, Feb 24, 2013 2:54:52pm

re: #8 kmg

Time to take off the rose coloured glasses, losers.

What exactly have we lost? Seems to me that the more immigration we have, and the more immigrants who are granted citizenship, the stronger and more prosperous we are.

10 jamesfirecat  Sun, Feb 24, 2013 3:29:58pm

re: #8 kmg

Google it yourself. But check out how one acquires citizenship in Germany and other European countries. Just being born in a country does not automatically give you citizenship, if born to someone not there legally. I personally think it’s any given Country’s responsibility to the citizens it already has to carefully pick and choose who it allows to gain citizenship.

Why don’t you just throw open the doors to you home to street people? They need shelter and food and you have it. If this idea doesn’t appeal to you, then it shouldn’t appeal to you on a much larger scale either.

Time to take off the rose coloured glasses, losers.

Do not confuse micro and macro economics. When you invite poor people into your house for one night they eat food and give you nothing in returning her than whatever they might have on their person. But when you invite immigrants into your country you offer them a chance to work for the country and be productive members of your society who pay more in taxes than they take up in money being spent to support them making the country stronger.


Besides, what “rights” would non citizens born in the USA have and not have if we do follow your advice?

Can they own guns for example?

11 Interesting Times  Sun, Feb 24, 2013 3:48:14pm

re: #8 kmg

Why don’t you just throw open the doors to you home to street people? They need shelter and food and you have it. If this idea doesn’t appeal to you, then it shouldn’t appeal to you on a much larger scale either.

Time to take off the rose coloured glasses, losers.

*cough*

Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!

Wow, what a loser that Statue of Liberty is… 9_9

12 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Feb 24, 2013 4:34:51pm

re: #4 kmg

Just throw open the doors then and you’ll end up like those other countries anyways, citizenship or no citizenship. Seems like your doors are wide open anyways. Just give everyone citizenship and soon there will be no more third world countries as everyone will be living in the U.S. And give everyone food stamps and healthcare and soon you’ll be looking like Greece.

If people only come to the U.S. to get food stamps and free healthcare, THEN WHO ARE ALL THESE SPANISH SPEAKING PEOPLE CLEANING HOUSES & HOTEL ROOMS & CUTTING GRASS & PICKING FRUIT & DOING BACK BREAKING LABOR?

Sorry for shouting, I just can’t…

I don’t even…

13 Varek Raith  Sun, Feb 24, 2013 10:40:27pm

re: #8 kmg


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