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1 CuriousLurker  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 2:15:45pm

Thank you for calling my attention to this.

2 Achilles Tang  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 6:39:16pm

It’s a silly fight. People will use the word as they wish and those who mean it’s just a personal betterment objective don’t need to publicize it.

Why not have a campaign that says Muslims shouldn’t yell Allah U Akbar whenever they try to kill an enemy, of either side?

Amen./

3 CriticalDragon1177  Thu, Mar 7, 2013 6:47:05pm

Gus,

Thanks for telling us about this.

4 CuriousLurker  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 1:45:35am

re: #2 Achilles Tang

Right, how silly of Muslims to push back against a bigot like Geller, they should just sit back and let her & the fanatics define everything. Oh, and BTW, [insert something negative about Muslims that has nothing to do with the thread].

5 Achilles Tang  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 11:52:10am

re: #4 CuriousLurker

It is a waste of time and money. Bigots thrive on exposure and getting in a pissing match with them gives them just that.

As to defining words, the only reason the word Jihad is well recognized in the west is because there are millions of primitive Muslims who do use it as meaning fight the infidels; from the Taliban to Bangladesh and more. That is a sad fact. Sure you condemn that, but if you want to give a message on billboards, condemn the violent usage explicitly and often rather than just saying your meaning of the word. My advice however is to ignore for the most part.

As to “something negative” about Muslims. Forgive me for thinking that you approve of calling the name of Allah whenever killing is attempted, as we hear whenever there is a clip of Muslims fighting somewhere. Yes, I find killing in the name of a god offensive and derogatory to any religion that does so; and I think it is relevant to the violent concept of Jihad.

Would you have anything to say if you saw video of American soldiers shouting “IN THE NAME OF JESUS” every time they fired a weapon?

Sorry to upset you. That was not my intent.

6 CuriousLurker  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 12:35:42pm

re: #5 Achilles Tang

Sorry to upset you. That was not my intent.

Of course it wasn’t. Next, you’ll be telling me (again) that I’m being hypersensitive.

7 Achilles Tang  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 1:20:22pm

re: #6 CuriousLurker

Good idea :)

9 CuriousLurker  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 2:23:49pm

re: #8 Achilles Tang

Yes, well we all have our faults, don’t we?

10 Achilles Tang  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 2:27:36pm

re: #9 CuriousLurker

Yes, well we all have our faults, don’t we?

True, although not the same ones.

11 CuriousLurker  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 2:39:10pm

re: #10 Achilles Tang

You are not offended by any bad qualities you have in yourself such as injustice, rancor, greed, envy, insensitivity, or pride. Yet when you see them in another, you shy away, offended. No one is revolted by a scab or abscess of his own; anyone will put his own sore finger into the stew, lick that finger, and not feel squeamish in the least. If, however, there is a minor abscess or cut on someone else’s hand, you would never be able to stomach the stew that hand had been in. Bad moral qualities are just like those scabs and abscesses: no one is offended by his own; yet everyone suffers distress and is horrified at seeing only a bit in another. Just as you shy away from another, you must excuse him for shying away when offended by you. Your distress is his excuse because your distress comes from seeing something he also sees.

—Jalal al-Din Rumi

12 Achilles Tang  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 3:11:09pm

re: #11 CuriousLurker

Thanks, but I prefer to communicate with you, not someone who I presume is dead.

13 Achilles Tang  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 3:50:24pm

Sorry, but I think this is trite. All it says is “we all have our faults, so never mention anyone else’s”.

This is not why we are at LGF.

14 CuriousLurker  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 4:32:51pm

re: #12 Achilles Tang

Thanks, but I prefer to communicate with you, not someone who I presume is dead.

We don’t always get what we prefer. *shrug*

re: #13 Achilles Tang

Sorry, but I think this is trite. All it says is “we all have our faults, so never mention anyone else’s”.

This is not why we are at LGF.

The passage says nothing whatsoever about never mentioning anyone else’s faults. It says quite clearly (IMO) that we should excuse others for pointing out our faults while remaining largely oblivious to their own, because that’s something every one of us is guilty of.

As for why “we” are at LGF, I would imagine the reasons are subjective and vary greatly.

Okay, I have emails to answer & videos to watch, so I’m done here for the time being. Enjoy your weekend.

15 Gus  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 7:33:56pm

re: #2 Achilles Tang

It’s a silly fight. People will use the word as they wish and those who mean it’s just a personal betterment objective don’t need to publicize it.

Why not have a campaign that says Muslims shouldn’t yell Allah U Akbar whenever they try to kill an enemy, of either side?

Amen./

What does yelling Allah U Akbar have to do with this. This is about Muslims in America and a PR campaign being fought by both sides. Geller is literally painting all Muslims as psychotic terrorists. CAIR is fighting back with a positive campaign that hurts no one. You see the shit that this hate group is putting up all around the country and in major cities? How can anyone blame CAIR to setting up their own ad campaign to counter it?

You know, I’m sick to death of Americans seeing Muslims in the context of 9/11 and terrorism. What Geller does is perpetuates that bigotry that we have to endure for almost 12 freaking long years. What Muslims in America do here as citizens has no affect on the extremism we see in Pakistan or Afghanistan. They live with us in peace. So we repay them by saying they’re dirt and basically all a bunch of terrorists.

And it’s true. Jihad does not mean what a lot of boneheaded Americans thinks it means. It means struggle and it’s a very important concept to the Muslim people. How would you like it if suddenly some nut started putting up anti-atheist signs all over the country, in buses and mass transportation?

So you question Allah U Akbar which is cried in battle OVERSEAS. This has nothing to do with American Muslims. But let me remind you. The US Army is basically a rolling religious revival of sort made up primarily of Christians. They don’t scream Allah U Akbar but they have field baptisms, Chaplains, prayer, biblical inscription on their sniper scopes.

And who do you think they see as attacking Iraq looking for WMDs. This country is a Christian nation. Maybe it can think it can easily hide behind the shroud of secularism but the primary moral motivator for most Americans is Christianity. So after 9/11 when Muslims allegedly attacked the WTC and the Pentagon the Christian Americans retaliated by invading Iraq and killing anywhere from 150,000 to 700,000 Iraqis. They see this as an attack of Christians.

16 Gus  Fri, Mar 8, 2013 7:41:40pm

re: #13 Achilles Tang

Sorry, but I think this is trite. All it says is “we all have our faults, so never mention anyone else’s”.

This is not why we are at LGF.

By doing what? Criticizing Islam? You’re well aware that there are different sects such Shia, Sunni, Salafism, secular Muslims. There’s also cultural Islam. So what Geller is doing is just mentioning the Muslims faults? Grid your loins, man up, and take it like a man?

17 Achilles Tang  Sat, Mar 9, 2013 10:00:51am

re: #15 Gus

Silly hysterical reply. So you think that because there are bigots like Geller, everyone who is critical of Muslim faith(s) is also a bigot do you? All the while you have no problem being critical of Christians, without being a bigot of course.

We all know American Muslims are civilized. Many others are not. They would do better to distance themselves from whatever their commonality with the primitives is, or ignore the issue instead of reacting like you do.

As to atheists, I’ve taken the equivalent of Geller crap all my life, from Christians and Muslims, but at least the former would not try to jail or kill me if I said the wrong words.

Man up kid. Your political correctness is childish.

18 Gus  Sat, Mar 9, 2013 10:01:28am

re: #17 Achilles Tang

Silly hysterical reply. So you think that because there are bigots like Geller, everyone who is critical of Muslim faith(s) is also a bigot do you? All the while you have no problem being critical of Christians, without being a bigot of course.

We all know American Muslims are civilized. Many others are not. They would do better to distance themselves from whatever their commonality with the primitives is, or ignore the issue instead of reacting like you do.

As to atheists, I’ve taken the equivalent of Geller crap all my life, from Christians and Muslims, but at least the former would not try to jail or kill me if I said the wrong words.

Man up kid. Your political correctness is childish.

I am closing this page.

19 Gus  Sat, Mar 9, 2013 9:53:33pm

OK, reopened just for you Tang.

20 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 10:05:16am

re: #17 Achilles Tang

Silly hysterical reply…

…Man up kid. Your political correctness is childish.

I would like to note for the record that you have turned this into a personal attack against me while I have not and instead chose to speak in broad terms and general issues.

21 Gus  Sun, Mar 10, 2013 9:37:53pm

re: #17 Achilles Tang

Here Tang. While you’re worried about Muslims.









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