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1 Charles Johnson  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:14:03pm

Forbes is going after some of that Alex Jones traffic magic. Sad.

2 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:22:23pm

re: #1 Charles Johnson

Forbes is going after some of that Alex Jones traffic magic. Sad.

Thanks for reminding me. See update.

3 Skip Intro  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:35:28pm

Forbes pretty much went into the toilet after Malcom died and Steve took over.

4 Blue Point  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 6:42:03pm

The game plan seems to be “There’s plenty of stupid out there and stupids’ got money. Our job is to get that money. We can buy back our souls later.”

5 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:10:09pm

The list of other “law enforcement agencies” that full under DHS is an important one. People think DHS is just DHS.

6 Aligarr  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:17:00pm

re: #4 Blue Point

Spot on Blue Point . Stupid sells ….or Forbes finally fell victim to the American Stupid Virus , for which there is no cure .

7 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 7:44:52pm

It’s about 8K rounds per employee, really not all that much. Sure not all employees are armed, but the training centers work with other agencies, sometimes waiving fees for State and local cops, so it probably more than evens out.

I was a little surprised that they bought any 30-06, though it wasn’t much. I thought the Feds had switched over to 308 entirely by now. Also somewhat surprised that .357 Sig had become so popular with law enforcement, since the only private citizen I know who buys any at all is my Dad. I’ve heard of a lot of people buying it by accident, mistaking it for .357 Magnum and then would have to return it for store credit. It’s also more expensive and harder to reload than its .40 Smith and Wesson parent case, so most private shooters don’t bother with it.

8 Gus  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:00:41pm
9 Destro  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 9:26:40pm

What I find funny is that the right wing types and those who claim to love the American military who would accuse me of hating America and America’s military are the ones who think their fellow Americans in uniform are about to kill them - which is really something hateful to say about your fellow countrymen.

10 aagcobb  Tue, Mar 12, 2013 10:52:51pm

How amazing is it that Forbes is running with a conspiracy theory the National Rifle “Obama’s coming for yer gunz” Association debunked?

11 Aligarr  Wed, Mar 13, 2013 7:43:49am

I find an irony here , I have a nephew who was a Captain in the Army at the height of the Iraq war , he wrote home to his Mom …dont send cake and cookies SEND US AMMUNITION !Under Bush and Rumsfeld , Americans at home were donating bullet proof vests !

12 Skip Intro  Wed, Mar 13, 2013 9:46:28am

re: #11 Aligarr

Under Bush and Rumsfeld , Americans at home were donating bullet proof vests !

I’ll never forget the famous Rumsfeld quote “You go to war with the army you have”, even if the war is unnecessary, and even when you have the highest military budget in the world.

That the leaders of the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld war machine aren’t rotting away in dark cells for the rest of their lives tells me that there’s no act the leaders of the government can do that will have any personal consequences at all.

13 Hippopotamus  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 10:58:51pm

Jesus christ, you people are stupid.
1. All these divisions have ammo. They didn’t just all suddenly run out simultaneously.

2. All these divisions have their own budgets for purchasing ammo from local dealers, and will probably do so this year too, like they always have done.

3. Even 1000 rounds per officer per year is ridiculous. They need to certify every 3 months. That’s their only requirement. Unless they’re on the swat team, or enjoy shooting as a hobby, no officer aught to go through a few hundred rounds a year. And 1.6 billion divided by the amount of officers is way more than 1000/per officer per year.

4. Hollow points

4.hollow-points are not target rounds. They’re more expensive and designed to shoot people. If they’re using them for target practice, especially at this ridiculous rate, they might as well be having tax dollar bonfires.

14 wrenchwench  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 11:04:25pm

re: #13 Hippopotamus

Greetings, hatchling.

15 Varek Raith  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 12:40:25am

re: #13 Hippopotamus

Oh geez.

16 Professor Chaos  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 6:08:56am

re: #13 Hippopotamus

Furthermore, federal agents, including those under DHS, generally use the same ammunition for duty and practice. Currently, it’s a .40 S&W jacketed hollow point made by Federal, commonly known as the HST. Most of DHS’s evil, banned-for-war, elderly-and-baby-killing hollow points end up going through paper targets and into dirt berms. Each CBP (Customs and Border Protection) agent is currently given 250 rounds per quarter, or 1000 rounds per year. While things may differ from agency to agency, that lines up fairly nicely with the above math for the 450 million round contract.

And you should really read the whole thing.

Sorry, now you were saying about people being stupid?

17 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 9:01:45am

re: #16 Professor Chaos


And you should really read the whole thing.

Sorry, now you were saying about people being stupid?

Good article. But even there the wingnuts showed up to shout “Lies! Lies! Lies!”

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