Jump to bottom


1 EiMitch  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 5:06:14pm
Last month, Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the chairwoman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and a staunch drone advocate, claimed that the drones kill only “single digits” worth of civilians annually.

Of course the number of civilian casualties are down. Its easy when you automatically count most of the dead bystanders as “enemy combatants.”

Many of the CIA’s strikes, termed “signature strikes,” kill people believed to fit a pattern of extremist behavior, rather than killing specific, known terrorists.

Great! The CIA is choosing who to kill with a mindset similar to the TSA’s profiling. That makes me feel alot better.

/so friggin’ sarc

2 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 7:51:04pm

The UN should be told to take a flying leap into the East River in this matter. We should otherwise ignore the UN and keep doing what we think needs doing.

3 EPR-radar  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 8:03:21pm

Some thought should really be given on how/when the US is going to disengage from its campaign of killing people more or less arbitrarily for being our enemies. This is not something to do indefinitely.

4 EiMitch  Fri, Mar 15, 2013 11:17:48pm

re: #2 Dark_Falcon

I might’ve agreed if we were only (or mostly) killing bad guys. But the scandalous way we’ve tallied the deaths of enemies and collateral damage (if they’re young males, lets just assume they’re enemy combatants) leaves a sour taste in my mouth, to put it gently.

Besides, I’m wonder how the hell we’re even selecting targets in the first place. That part also fails the smell test.

people believed to fit a pattern of extremist behavior

Does that not sound suspicious? What constitutes “extremist behavior” anyway? I’m going out on a limb by doubting that they’ve narrowed it down to “blows s*** up and wildly fires an AK-47 into the air.”

5 BishopX  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 6:09:20am

re: #4 EiMitch

It’s usually someone who has had repeated contact with some identified as an extremist…so if your brother runs a business with someone who has a sideline of selling fertilizer out of the back of his truck you would be considered an extremist.

6 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Mar 16, 2013 8:16:12am

re: #5 BishopX

It’s usually someone who has had repeated contact with some identified as an extremist…so if your brother runs a business with someone who has a sideline of selling fertilizer out of the back of his truck you would be considered an extremist.

But that does serve a useful function even then in a tribal society: “Stand with the Taliban and it won’t just be you who suffers. We’ll bomb your brother’s business, too.” The price of siding with our enemies must be made high in order for deterrence to work.

7 EiMitch  Sun, Mar 17, 2013 2:18:34am

re: #5 BishopX

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

Assuming thats true for the sake of argument, I still don’t agree.

First of all, this is literally “guilty by association” thinking. What makes you think the known bad guy isn’t just lying to this person as part of his daily cover? He might not have a clue why he’s targeted for death. And their grieving loved ones won’t be thinking “who was seeing to bring this on him.” They’ll be thinking “those murderous yankees struck again! Damn them to hell!”

That’ll put a dent in terrorist recruitment. /sarc

Second, you should be punished for your brother’s wrongdoings? That is outrageously unjust BS! Are you an only child or something? Have your siblings never done anything criminal? One of mine did, and there wasn’t a damn thing I could’ve done to stop him. By your logic, I should’ve gone to jail with him or even in his place, just to send him a message. Boo!

Besides, do you really think killing one’s brother can dissuade someone from committing a hateful act of violence? Think about it.

Finally, deterrence in general presumes that association is a choice. But it might not be that simple. For example, in Afghanistan, people grew drug crops for terrorists (and many still do) because they had no other way to make ends meet.

And though the Taliban lost some power in Pakistan, they’re still a force to be reckoned with. The Pakistani officials are still hesitant to take direct action against them. What chance does a lone citizen saying “no” to these thugs have? Even a little girl will get a bullet to the head, just for going to school.

In sum: killing to make an example is monstrous and ineffective, hence unjustifiable. The only proven effective way to get results is to go up the chain and catch or kill high ranking members. Rapid turnover at the management level will ruin any organization. Why the hell is any of this so hard to understand?

This page has been archived.
Comments are closed.

Jump to top

Create a PageThis is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title, text, and any embedded video or audio files already filled in, ready to go.
Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.
Last updated: 2016-01-01 10:29 am PST
LGF User's Guide RSS Feeds Tweet

Help support Little Green Footballs!

Subscribe now for ad-free access!Register and sign in to a free LGF account before subscribing, and your ad-free access will be automatically enabled.

Donate with
Square Cash Shop at amazon
as an LGF Associate!
Recent PagesClick to refresh
The Interrupters - Get Down Moses (Joe Strummer Cover) Here we are covering "Get Down Moses" for the "A Song For Joe: Celebrating The Birthday Of Joe Strummer" Livestream event on Aug 21, 2020 benefiting #SAVEOURSTAGES You can watch the full show here: YouTube Aimee Interrupter: Lead Vocals ...
1 day, 23 hours ago
Views: 288 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 1 •
#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 201025Relentless rain this week. A good bit of localized flooding including the field and around the yard.Most of it had dissipated by Saturday though there are still a few new temporary lakes over at the park. The papaya tree got ...
3 days, 15 hours ago
Views: 386 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 4
Tweets: 0 •
#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 201018It was a full weekend here at the pond. 8 yards of top soil were (was?) delivered Friday afternoon Saturday was prepping the butterfly bed:First, a good weed whacking, a bit of leveling, then laying down weed barrier.On top of ...
1 week ago
Views: 707 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 9
Tweets: 0 •
#Thegreatpoolpondconversion - 201011The weather held out just long enough that we could start painting the deck. It is tedious work and still quite tiring in the heat.Just one line in the notes says 'paint deck' but it's gonna translate into many, many ...
1 week, 6 days ago
Views: 1,134 • Comments: 1 • Rating: 9
Tweets: 0 •
For What It’s Worth - Buffalo Springfield (Cover by Del McCoury Band and Friends) Now Available See the new release from this jam session of "One Kind Favor" (See That My Grave Is Kept Clean) - Blind Lemon Jeffeson.YouTube A few months ago, a bunch of friends got together to play music ...
2 weeks ago
Views: 1,670 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 1
Tweets: 1 •
Trevor Noah: A Primer on 21st Century “Militias” [VIDEO] A toxic mix of racism and paranoid conspiracy fantasies has propagated the worst among us to arm themselves to the teeth in anticipation for the slaughter of their fellow citizens. Militias have been a part of America since it ...
2 weeks, 1 day ago
Views: 1,828 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 2 •
(49) Mandolin Orange - Unknown Legend (Neil Young Cover)Echo Mountain stream. July 24th, 2020.
2 weeks, 1 day ago
Views: 1,796 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 3 •
The Expanse - Season 5 Official Trailer The future of The Belt has begun as Marco Inaros wages Armageddon against the Inners for a lifetime of oppression and injustice. » Watch the new season of The Expanse now exclusively with your Prime Membership:» SUBSCRIBE: ...
2 weeks, 1 day ago
Views: 1,743 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 3
Tweets: 4 •
Cellist Plays to Mourn Cathedral Shelled in Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict A historic cathedral has been shelled amid the Armenian-Azerbaijan conflict in the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh, or Artsakh, region, where hundreds have been killed and tens of thousands displaced after two weeks of new fighting. On the evening of Thursday 8 ...
2 weeks, 1 day ago
Views: 1,590 • Comments: 1 • Rating: 1
Tweets: 1 •
Future Islands - Born in a War (Official Video) 'Born In A War' by Future Islands Wayne White - Director and Production DesignerWoodrow White - Editor, Co-Director, Co-Production Designer Future Islands’ new album 'As Long As You Are', out now on 4AD. Listen, stream and buy album here: ...
2 weeks, 1 day ago
Views: 1,708 • Comments: 0 • Rating: 0
Tweets: 1 •