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1 Skip Intro  Mon, Mar 18, 2013 9:57:59am

They hooked me with the first six episodes. That would have been a good place to end the show, because everything after that has sucked, IMO.

2 Destro  Mon, Mar 18, 2013 10:09:39am

re: #1 Skip Intro

Still the best zombie show on TV (because it is the only zombie show on TV).

3 Skip Intro  Mon, Mar 18, 2013 10:12:07am

re: #2 Destro

Still the best zombie show on TV (because it is the only zombie show on TV).

But is that necessary when I can see a real zombie show with Pat Boone and Phyllis Schlafly at CPAC?

4 Major Tom  Mon, Mar 18, 2013 11:03:44am

I find the major flaw with the show is that the episodes are very tied to the previous and next episodes, so when you watch them one at a time, the feeling is too fragmented, or too slow. An entire episode dealing with character development can seem too slow on it’s own, (especially after a zombie horde episode) but doesnt seem out of place in sequence… I had this feeling much of season two, I then gave up on the show for a while, before I went back and watched the whole season all at once and the first 1/2 of season 3… It made a huge difference. When you watch them all together you really stay in the moment, and it’s easier to keep that feeling that you are there with them, on the farm, in that prison, etc… This is my biggest complaint, the perceived ‘speed’ of the show… I can forgive the moments that the characters seem to forget they are living in the apocalypse more than most, but I still know what you mean. I felt Rick and Hershel were guilty of this when they stopped in that bar and started drinking… Really?

5 Destro  Mon, Mar 18, 2013 11:58:57am

Yes, Rick and Hershel in the bar really was weird because zombies are like everywhere - I get that all the humans migrated into the cities and depopulated the countryside but still it was beyond belief that scene happened as is.

I actually don’t mind the slow pacing, I don’t want killing zombies every second but instead of sitting around why are they not barricading their places - they would be doing chores 24/7 in a world without electricity, etc.

It is the same feeling I have for that NBC show where electricity was somehow destroyed. How can their be a fat guy who walks around all the time?

Also, why is no one riding a bike? Why is everyone walking?

6 Skip Intro  Mon, Mar 18, 2013 12:07:08pm

re: #5 Destro

Also, why is no one riding a bike? Why is everyone walking?

In the early shows I couldn’t understand why they were all driving junkers when they could have had any vehicle they wanted.

7 Major Tom  Mon, Mar 18, 2013 2:37:41pm

re: #6 Skip Intro

Yeah well now it’s all about product placement. My Girlfriend is proud to know her Hyundai Santa Fe is the preferred conveyence in an end of the world scenario. :/

8 John Vreeland  Mon, Mar 18, 2013 6:52:46pm

I could never get past the idea that these people were dead—but walking around. You do understand what “dead” means, right? No oxygen or glucose to the brain. No oxygen or fatty acids to the heart. Dead, decomposing muscle cells that couldn’t really respond to a twitch signal even if there was a living nervous system to supply one.

And walking? Do you realize how much coordination that requires, especially for a biped? Not only would the muscle cells have to be “alive” in the sense that they were capable of metabolizing energy and turning it into physical motion, but the central nervous system would also have to be largely intact and “alive.” But if the heart is not beating then there is no way to transfer oxygen or energy to the cells, and no way to remove waste products. That’s why, when your heart stops beating, you die. “Walking dead” makes no sense. It’s an oxymoron. If you can walk, then by definition you are not dead.

9 Kronocide  Mon, Mar 18, 2013 7:04:32pm

re: #5 Destro

Yes, Rick and Hershel in the bar really was weird because zombies are like everywhere - I get that all the humans migrated into the cities and depopulated the countryside but still it was beyond belief that scene happened as is.

I actually don’t mind the slow pacing, I don’t want killing zombies every second but instead of sitting around why are they not barricading their places - they would be doing chores 24/7 in a world without electricity, etc.

It is the same feeling I have for that NBC show where electricity was somehow destroyed. How can their be a fat guy who walks around all the time?

Also, why is no one riding a bike? Why is everyone walking?

That was one of the most real scenes in the show. After 18 months of surviving and getting good at killing zombies, I’d take a moment to have a single malt with a buddy over a serious decision to be made, even if a couple of walkers were around outside.

10 sagehen  Mon, Mar 18, 2013 7:23:17pm
know for budget reasons they can’t have zombie hordes in every scene but there are 300 million Americans give or take - you would expect to see them all over the place but we only get one or two shambling zombies here or there.

this part doesn’t bother me… we’ve seen each of our living characters put down dozens of walkers, and some of the early-days flashbacks suggest lots were bombed into smithereens or trapped under rubble — no more than 1-2% of the population could possibly remain.

11 Destro  Mon, Mar 18, 2013 9:17:28pm

re: #10 sagehen

this part doesn’t bother me… we’ve seen each of our living characters put down dozens of walkers, and some of the early-days flashbacks suggest lots were bombed into smithereens or trapped under rubble — no more than 1-2% of the population could possibly remain.

Not really. I am pretty sure the govt collapsed quick no bombings happened. 300 million corpses give or take.

12 Destro  Mon, Mar 18, 2013 9:18:56pm

re: #9 Kronocide

That was one of the most real scenes in the show. After 18 months of surviving and getting good at killing zombies, I’d take a moment to have a single malt with a buddy over a serious decision to be made, even if a couple of walkers were around outside.

That’s funny! But I would do it with my back to the wall of the bar - or maybe like lock the door to the bar.

13 Destro  Mon, Mar 18, 2013 9:27:39pm

re: #8 John Vreeland

I could never get past the idea that these people were dead—but walking around. You do understand what “dead” means, right? No oxygen or glucose to the brain. No oxygen or fatty acids to the heart. Dead, decomposing muscle cells that couldn’t really respond to a twitch signal even if there was a living nervous system to supply one.

And walking? Do you realize how much coordination that requires, especially for a biped? Not only would the muscle cells have to be “alive” in the sense that they were capable of metabolizing energy and turning it into physical motion, but the central nervous system would also have to be largely intact and “alive.” But if the heart is not beating then there is no way to transfer oxygen or energy to the cells, and no way to remove waste products. That’s why, when your heart stops beating, you die. “Walking dead” makes no sense. It’s an oxymoron. If you can walk, then by definition you are not dead.

Actually, my question is why don’t they go north where it gets below freezing? Once the zombie is frozen when it defrosts it will be dead, because ice crystals would be like billions of ice daggers on the brain cells?

Unless they don’t need brain cells just nerve endings? Would ice crystals damage those?

I actually read the comic book and Kirkman stated his universe more or less follows the rules set out by George Romero’s zombies and in the original “Night of the Living Dead” a radiation shower from space re-animated the corpses like how Frankenstein is made to move by electricity and as creatures working off the primitive lizard part of the brain that are looking to eat even if they cant metabolize food or feel hunger - just dumb eating machines on autopilot. The radiation is creating electrical energy that keeps the brain sending messages to synapses to cause motion to get food and that’s about it. And the reason the zombies don’t eat each other is they want to eat fresh food as is hard wired in the lizard part of the brain (again per Romero movie explanations).


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