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1 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Mar 19, 2013 9:02:18pm

You can take that bullshit conspiracy theory and shove where the sun don’t shine!

2 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Mar 19, 2013 9:10:16pm

Might even be something real to the idea. I’ll give it a thought when someone sane presents it.

Have a nice life, Troll.

3 Destro  Tue, Mar 19, 2013 9:59:49pm

re: #2 William Barnett-Lewis

I do have a nice life. Thanks! Keep on waiting to think, it’s good for you but you should do it sooner.

4 Destro  Tue, Mar 19, 2013 10:07:17pm

re: #1 Dark_Falcon

You can take that bullshit conspiracy theory and shove where the sun don’t shine!

The Iraq War was a fucking conspiracy. It was a war of choice as in it was planned to be fought offensively ahead of time for contrived reasons. How much more fucking a conspiracy do you want?

5 Political Atheist  Wed, Mar 20, 2013 7:59:37am

re: #4 Destro

The idea that this was THE conspiracy is laughable if only for the simplistic approach. It’s so obviously anger and outrage talking. Better theories abound. A war of choice does not necessarily a conspiracy make.

A President might choose to destroy certain nuclear or missile facilities somewhere. By choice, before a launch happens. That too would be a war by choice.

Thing is the anger and outrage at the war is perfectly justifiable. That however does not add weight to particular conspiracy theories that tread way over the proverbial razor.

6 Destro  Wed, Mar 20, 2013 8:10:07am

re: #5 Political Atheist

The idea that this was THE conspiracy is laughable if only for the simplistic approach. It’s so obviously anger and outrage talking. Better theories abound. A war of choice does not necessarily a conspiracy make.

A President might choose to destroy certain nuclear or missile facilities somewhere. By choice, before a launch happens. That too would be a war by choice.

Thing is the anger and outrage at the war is perfectly justifiable. That however does not add weight to particular conspiracy theories that tread way over the proverbial razor.

Depends on what you mean by “conspiracy”, I mean it as 2 or more people getting together to act on a thing maybe even a criminal thing like start a war for false reasons. I don’t mean conspiracy as in “We have aliens in Hanger 18” kind of conspiracy.

Also, we have to take into account that before the Iraq war of choice there was talk of ending the sanctions on Iraq allowing her to sell oil again on the open market and that would have dropped the price of oil down even more. Taking into account Cheney’s own worries about how low oil prices were hurting his oil interests and thus we have something to go on, and money and power are always great motivators.

And as you can see, I did not mention president Bush. I think Bush was a manipulated air head and was played like a fiddle by Cheney. Cheney oil interests benefited from the Iraq war due to sky high prices that have to this day yet to go down to pre war levels (levels that were so low they were killing the business).

I don’t get why you don’t raise an eyebrow over the fact that Cheney advocated for high oil prices as being good for America and low and behold when he was the Vice President (and in my mind defacto foreign policy leader with Bush as a rubber stamp) the price of oil went up to record levels.

That is mighty suspect to me on the face of it.

Also, at this point we need to take George Bush out of the equation as anything other than the manipulated dupe he was.

So anyway, no one seems to mention or recall Cheney’s stance on oil prices and how when he had power we saw oil prices rise. Maybe many people were not aware Dick Cheney ever said that because we have always heard Republicans condemn Democrats for wanting to tax gas and thus make it more expensive and blaming Obama for high gasoline/oil prices. But here we have the GOP VP saying these words about high oil prices being a good thing and I feel that is something worth exploring.

7 Destro  Wed, Mar 20, 2013 8:26:19am
cnbc.com

Published: Friday, 26 Oct 2007 | 3:57 PM ET

CNBC’s Larry Kudlow sat down with Vice President Dick Cheney and discussed oil prices, the economy, and recent sanctions against Iran.

Cheney played down any threat to the economy from high oil prices, telling Kudlow, “Our economy has been amazingly resilient to what’s happened to oil prices over the last couple of years.” He added that “the economy has adapted to it and adjusted very well.”

vs.

“Let us rid ourselves of the fiction that low oil prices are somehow good for the United States” October 1986, Dick Cheney


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