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1 Origuy  Mon, Mar 25, 2013 8:26:21am

Not disputing the discrimination faced by the Roma, but “Anglo”?

2 Malcolman  Mon, Mar 25, 2013 9:02:48am

Yeah man, Anglo means English, not central European. We have a very different type of Gypsy in England, same kind of prejudices though.

3 Local Media Monitor  Mon, Mar 25, 2013 9:32:40am

re: #1 Origuy

re: #2 Malcolman
Good point, people. I just think “white” and “black” are deficient terms, but there’s a language hole otherwise sometimes.

4 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Mar 25, 2013 10:53:35am

re: #3 Local Media Monitor

Call them Roma and Czech, or gadje if you want to get clever.

Roma are more and more moving to the US, and I’m glad of it. Though this is not a good place to be poor and rootless, there’s a hell of a lot less persecution of Roma here than in Europe, and no attempts to simply destroy their culture.

My wife is part Roma. It is absolutely amazing how many people who don’t consider themselves racist in the least are fine with punitive anti-Roma measures. What’s nuts is how many just can’t figure out why the Roma are dispossessed, untrusting, and have high rates of petty crime— gee, could it be because they’ve been enslaved, persecuted, and killed for centuries and centuries, that they’ve been completely kept out of mainstream society?

5 Local Media Monitor  Mon, Mar 25, 2013 11:27:07am

re: #4 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Call them Roma and Czech, or gadje if you want to get clever.

Thanks, but if you look again, I was talking about the gadje all over Eastern/Central Europe, not just the Czechs, hence the naming problem.

Roma are more and more moving to the US, and I’m glad of it. Though this is not a good place to be poor and rootless, there’s a hell of a lot less persecution of Roma here than in Europe, and no attempts to simply destroy their culture.

My wife is part Roma. It is absolutely amazing how many people who don’t consider themselves racist in the least are fine with punitive anti-Roma measures. What’s nuts is how many just can’t figure out why the Roma are dispossessed, untrusting, and have high rates of petty crime— gee, could it be because they’ve been enslaved, persecuted, and killed for centuries and centuries, that they’ve been completely kept out of mainstream society?

Agree 100%, and don’t get me started!

6 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Mar 25, 2013 12:46:31pm

re: #5 Local Media Monitor

Well, Anglo is one of the worse choices. And there are a few states that are better with the Gypsies than others. Certainly there’s a big difference between the UK, where the travelers get harassed and fined but aren’t kept out of the school system, and a place like Italy where their murders go investigated.

7 Local Media Monitor  Mon, Mar 25, 2013 1:45:24pm

re: #6 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Feel free to suggest one of the best choices.

8 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Mon, Mar 25, 2013 1:51:18pm

re: #7 Local Media Monitor

Feel free to suggest one of the best choices.

Well, there’s no group designation that makes any sense. Europeans aren’t one ethnicity, and Roma are Europeans too in this instance. I don’t think putting it in ethnic or racial terms is necessary, beyond saying that the Roma are discriminated against in these countries. I doubt the other minorities in those countries fail to discriminate against Roma, either.

9 Aligarr  Mon, Mar 25, 2013 5:13:58pm

oh what a wonnnnnderfull wooooorld .

10 moderatelyradicalliberal  Mon, Mar 25, 2013 9:32:17pm

re: #4 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Call them Roma and Czech, or gadje if you want to get clever.

Roma are more and more moving to the US, and I’m glad of it. Though this is not a good place to be poor and rootless, there’s a hell of a lot less persecution of Roma here than in Europe, and no attempts to simply destroy their culture.

My wife is part Roma. It is absolutely amazing how many people who don’t consider themselves racist in the least are fine with punitive anti-Roma measures. What’s nuts is how many just can’t figure out why the Roma are dispossessed, untrusting, and have high rates of petty crime— gee, could it be because they’ve been enslaved, persecuted, and killed for centuries and centuries, that they’ve been completely kept out of mainstream society?

Speaking of subtle racism, I only learned what the term “gypped” was in reference to two years ago. I don’t know any people of Roma decent, but I don’t say the word anymore. It’s as bad as “jewed down”.

11 Destro  Tue, Mar 26, 2013 7:08:46am

The Roma in Central and Eastern Europe live under constant persecution by the Anglo majority population,

Anglo? Since when are central Europeans called Anglos? I know the westerners were once all called “Franks” in the east but this is new for me? Did they mean Anglo as the way the Amish call outsiders “English”?

12 Local Media Monitor  Tue, Mar 26, 2013 1:27:24pm

re: #11 Destro

Thanks for your input, Destro. Please scroll up to see the discussion of that word (and others).

13 pcw27  Sat, Mar 30, 2013 4:01:38pm

re: #4 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

You and your wife may be interested in a documentary called “Searching for the 4th Nail” it may be the only film about American Roma that was made by an American Romani filmmaker.

check it out at searchingforthe4thnail.com

14 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, Mar 30, 2013 6:33:20pm

re: #13 pcw27

Thanks, that’s awesome.


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