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1 alinuxguru  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 12:40:06pm

Why are these bonds set this high? This seems absurdly large for a non-violent crime.

2 iossarian  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 12:50:27pm

re: #1 alinuxguru

Punish the people who made the obvious, economically rational response to the policy.

The people at the top of the pile need to be held accountable, but I feel sorry for the teachers. Just another few victims of NCLB and “market-based” education policy.

3 celticdragon  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:13:42pm

re: #2 iossarian

Punish the people who made the obvious, economically rational response to the policy.

The people at the top of the pile need to be held accountable, but I feel sorry for the teachers. Just another few victims of NCLB and “market-based” education policy.

I was thinking the same thing. The teachers were set up to fail from the very beginning: cheat and keep your job or risk getting fired and losing your livelihood.

4 celticdragon  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:16:30pm

re: #1 alinuxguru

Why are these bonds set this high? This seems absurdly large for a non-violent crime.

The trend towards absurd bail rates has been abetted by bail bondsman who profit from what they charge for the bonds. They are also a big reason why home detention monitoring programs in lieu of bond have been scrapped around the country. The prison industrial complex rolls merrily along.

5 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:23:04pm

Next scandal: Prosecutors and judges indicted for taking kickbacks to inflate bail.

6 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:27:36pm

And not one single banker or hedge fund manager has been charged in the fallout of the financial crisis.

7 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 7:20:51pm

re: #2 iossarian

Punish the people who made the obvious, economically rational response to the policy.

The people at the top of the pile need to be held accountable, but I feel sorry for the teachers. Just another few victims of NCLB and “market-based” education policy.

There’s a good deal to be said for that, but if they did break the law they must be punished for it. I’d give them lighter sentences than the ringleaders, though.

As for bail: Setting high bail can also be a prosecutor’s tactic to get someone to plead guilty to a lesser charge. In a complex case in a crowded court system getting to trial can take over a year, and if someone can’t make bail they’ll spend that year in jail, which is ruinous even if they are ultimately acquitted. Thus the accused are sometimes forced to take a plea simply to spend less time behind bars. Keeping someone in jail also keeps them from earning money to pay a lawyer, thus impairing their ability to fight the charges against them.

And to don a tri-corner hat for a moment, it should be noted that such abuses of bail and pre-trial detention were one of the grievances that triggered the Revolutionary War and it also was part of the reason for the adoption of the 8th Amendment.

8 Aligarr  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 8:18:40pm

The big question here is ….how many other school districts around the country are doing the same . It’s human nature , in the service industry it’s the numbers , in marketing , Wall Street , it’s the numbers , gotta meet the bogie . If you’re not on the top, better to be in the middle rather than the bottom . Managers who cant make the numbers are dumped , so they fudge the numbers , subordinates short cut the job or service which usually results in doing a job several times before it’s done right .This cost more money , but it is overlooked because management is making their numbers .The downside is ignored . This time it hits a sector that affects our childrens basic education , but the motives are the same .

9 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 8:31:46pm

re: #8 Aligarr

The big question here is ….how many other school districts around the country are doing the same . It’s human nature , in the service industry it’s the numbers , in marketing , Wall Street , it’s the numbers , gotta meet the bogie . If you’re not on the top, better to be in the middle rather than the bottom . Managers who cant make the numbers are dumped , so they fudge the numbers , subordinates short cut the job or service which usually results in doing a job several times before it’s done right .This cost more money , but it is overlooked because management is making their numbers .The downside is ignored . This time it hits a sector that affects our childrens basic education , but the motives are the same .

“Juking the stats” just like on The Wire.

10 wheat-dogghazi  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 10:02:07pm

re: #8 Aligarr

There were some allegations that the D.C. schools were also juking the stats while Michelle Rhee was heading the system. Rhee is one of education’s superstars right now, beloved by pols on both sides of the aisle, because she supposedly gets “results.”

11 Destro  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 11:16:56pm

My god, every comment here got an upding from me.

I don’t even know why this is a criminal offense. A firing offense? Sure! But a criminal offense?

Just a few months ago some kids got busted in New York cheating on an SAT test. They got some kid to take the test for them I think but we had arrests of the kids in handcuffs if I recall. Why? When did test cheating on a school test become a crime?

Also, this reminds me of a South Park episode where they satire that the American way to the top is via cheating - especially if you are the Patriot’s coach.


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