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1 SidewaysQuark  Wed, Apr 3, 2013 8:15:05am

Is the 3 strikes law the problem, or is it the fact that so many petty crimes are labeled as ‘felonies’ in the first place?

2 ReamWorks SKG  Wed, Apr 3, 2013 8:27:13am

Maybe so, but residential burglaries are up 23% in my county since three strikes was toppled in CA.

I really don’t see too much wrong with sending a person with two prior felonies back to jail for a long time after a third offense, even if “minor.” How many chances does a person need?

3 wrenchwench  Wed, Apr 3, 2013 8:42:10am

re: #2 ReamWorks SKG

Maybe so, but residential burglaries are up 23% in my county since three strikes was toppled in CA.

I really don’t see too much wrong with sending a person with two prior felonies back to jail for a long time after a third offense, even if “minor.” How many chances does a person need?

From up above:

“It’s not an accident that so many of the most ridiculous Three Strikes cases are semi-coherent homeless people or people with drug problems who came from broken homes. It wasn’t a cost-efficient way of dealing with these issues—in fact, in California at least, it was an insanely, almost criminally expensive burden on taxpayers—but it was effective enough as a way of keeping the uglier schisms of our society hidden from view.”

Fiscally wrong, as well as morally wrong, IMHO.

4 SidewaysQuark  Wed, Apr 3, 2013 8:46:37am

re: #2 ReamWorks SKG

Maybe so, but residential burglaries are up 23% in my county since three strikes was toppled in CA.

I really don’t see too much wrong with sending a person with two prior felonies back to jail for a long time after a third offense, even if “minor.” How many chances does a person need?

“Minor felony” should be an oxymoron, that’s the whole problem.

5 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Apr 3, 2013 8:52:21am

re: #2 ReamWorks SKG

Maybe so, but residential burglaries are up 23% in my county since three strikes was toppled in CA.

I really don’t see too much wrong with sending a person with two prior felonies back to jail for a long time after a third offense, even if “minor.” How many chances does a person need?

Kinda hard to get a job and support oneself with a felony on one’s record. What choice does a person have other than more crime? Felons are also denied any of the safety-nets.

The system is fucked and we’ve made it that way.

How have the violent crime stats faired since since the toppling of 3-strikes in your area?

6 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Apr 3, 2013 9:12:46am

re: #2 ReamWorks SKG

Maybe so, but residential burglaries are up 23% in my county since three strikes was toppled in CA.

I really don’t see too much wrong with sending a person with two prior felonies back to jail for a long time after a third offense, even if “minor.” How many chances does a person need?

What’s the point in sending them to prison for a long time? What does society gain?

It’s incredibly goddamn expensive.

7 Local Media Monitor  Wed, Apr 3, 2013 9:14:45am

re: #5 FemNaziBitch

US incarceration rate, the highest in the world. Our “free country” keeps more people locked up in prison than Russia, Korea, and gulag states like Belorussia. The prison industry, a taxpayer-funded mega-scam that ruins families, is one more of the many morally bankrupt pillars of our society.

8 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Apr 3, 2013 9:21:24am

re: #7 Local Media Monitor

US incarceration rate, the highest in the world. Our “free country” keeps more people locked up in prison than Russia, Korea, and gulag states like Belorussia. The prison industry, a taxpayer-funded mega-scam that ruins families, is one more of the many morally bankrupt pillars of our society.

Yes, it’s the New Jim Crow

9 calochortus  Wed, Apr 3, 2013 9:25:25am

re: #4 SidewaysQuark

“Minor felony” should be an oxymoron, that’s the whole problem.

A number of crimes can be charged as misdemeanors or felonies ranging from drug possession to theft. Some of these are actually not terribly serious crimes, but if you’re a repeat offender with a public defender I’m guessing you might well have things charged as felonies rather than misdemeanors.

10 HappyWarrior  Wed, Apr 3, 2013 9:25:32am

I’ve read about this. Horrifying really.

11 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Apr 3, 2013 10:20:51am
12 aagcobb  Wed, Apr 3, 2013 11:12:47am

One of the silver linings of my home state, Kentucky, going broke, was that it forced the politicians to modify the ridiculously harsh laws which gave us the fastest growing prison population in the country, because we simply couldn’t afford to incarcerate that many people anymore.


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