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1 Political Atheist  Sat, Apr 6, 2013 8:07:54am

Let’s hear it for the high frontier. Smart play Mr President.

The mission would marry ongoing NASA projects, including asteroid detection, robotic spacecraft development, the construction of a giant new rocket — the Space Launch System — and the building of a deep-space human exploration capsule called Orion. A non-crewed test launch of Orion is set for next year.

2 Destro  Sat, Apr 6, 2013 9:56:58am

You don’t need to send humans to grab samples. I am for robotic exploration to the hilt but this is a waste of money (human cargo).

3 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Apr 6, 2013 11:44:31am

Far out!

re: #2 Destro

You don’t need to send humans to grab samples. I am for robotic exploration to the hilt but this is a waste of money (human cargo).

The NASA budget is less than 1/2 of one percent of the federal budget. I think we can swing this one.

4 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 6, 2013 3:15:43pm

re: #3 NJDhockeyfan

Far out!

The NASA budget is less than 1/2 of one percent of the federal budget. I think we can swing this one.

1. Grab asteroid.
2. Clobber with hammer.
3. EBay.
4. PROFIT !!!

5 TDG2112  Sat, Apr 6, 2013 3:18:07pm

Unfortunately any mission that launches after a president’s term of office expires is bunk. Bush said we should go to the moon again. What happened to that?

6 TDG2112  Sat, Apr 6, 2013 3:25:51pm

re: #4 Decatur Deb

That sort of implies we are planning on bringing the stuff back down the gravity well to sell it. Why the hell would we want to do that?

No, send up 3-D printers, extract the material, and print yourself a spaceship. Send it with more 3-D printers out to a good mining spot (Asteroids, moon, Mars, whatever) and build habitats and more self-replicating robots/3-D printers, and more spaceships. Fill the ships full of reaction mass (H20 most likely) and send back to pick up the colonists.

This is the sort of visionary thing we should be doing. It would be a sustainable space program that would build a huge industrial and economic infrastructure we could launch so much science from the whole world would never again stop talking about building the concept of Tomorrow.

This would rekindle the Ambition of the Nation that would never be put out again.

“Make our ambitions in space so tastey so suductive, so… so… enticing, that people will be beating down the door to get into the science classroom. People won’t be mindlessly disconnected from the advancing frontier of science and technology becuase those discoveries will be writ large in the daily papers”

7 Decatur Deb  Sat, Apr 6, 2013 3:39:08pm

re: #6 TDG2112

That sort of implies we are planning on bringing the stuff back down the gravity well to sell it. Why the hell would we want to do that?

…snip

‘Cause I want some.

8 TDG2112  Sat, Apr 6, 2013 4:16:43pm

re: #7 Decatur Deb

Actually, I’m sure they will bring it down for scientific analysis, and hopefully testing how to turn the material into 3-d printer cartridges. The idea of bringing the stuff down to sell has been reviewed by various people in the press, and it just isn’t profitable. And yet, the press still talks about it like it is. Someone highly visible and in a political leadership position needs to come out and declare the vision. I’m hopeful that the message will get out before the next president takes office and kills the program.

9 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sat, Apr 6, 2013 4:18:19pm

re: #2 Destro

The technologies developed to help the human cargo live up there are useful in civilian applications. Any investment in science returns the money over and over.

10 TDG2112  Sat, Apr 6, 2013 4:28:56pm

re: #9 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

I totally agree with this. However, We now have technologies to make our presence is space self sustaining. I want to get people back up there as quick as possible, but more importantly, I want to go myself. The fastest route to the latter is to build the infrastructure up there. We can do it most quickly, efficiently and cost effectively with robots and 3-D printers. I think the act of doing that would ignite people’s imagination, drive lobbyists from industry to push for it, and rekindle a sense of awe in Science and Technology that would launch the economy in ways we haven’t seen in a long time.

Not to mention bury any talk of the YECs.

11 Destro  Sat, Apr 6, 2013 6:30:50pm

re: #9 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

I think developing nano robotics and AI computers would also be a boon to mankind and allow for quicker exploration of space

12 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Sun, Apr 7, 2013 6:00:59am

re: #11 Destro

I think developing nano robotics and AI computers would also be a boon to mankind and allow for quicker exploration of space

Sure. But calling this a waste of money is simply wrong.


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