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1 Archangelus  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 4:58:00am

“Gun’s don’t kill people, people kill people - guns just allow people to kill lots and lots of other people really, really quickly”

2 celticdragon  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 12:24:48pm

Two mass shootings were stopped by private citizens with guns that I can think of just off the top of my head. One was the Paducah school shooting where the vice principal fetched a pistol from his car and confronted the shooter, and the other was the shooter who had killed people at the Youth With A Mission campus in Colorado and then tried to shoot up the New Life Church (where Ted Haggard was preacher) the next morning. He was shot by a female ex-cop parishioner who brought her handgun on suspicion after hearing about the shooting the night before.

3 Tigger2005  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 2:50:44pm

An ex-cop is not an “ordinary citizen.”

4 Tigger2005  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 2:52:21pm

Also, being able to name these incidents “just off the top of your head” does not mean they are common. They may stand out and be memorable precisely because they are rare.

5 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 4:02:36pm

re: #3 Tigger2005

An ex-cop is not an “ordinary citizen.”

In most States they have the exact same rights as any ordinary citizen, and the Christopher Dorner case shows the danger in treating them as some kind of super citizen with enhanced rights.

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