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1 Destro  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 12:12:01pm

When in Europe in college I proposed having the Saint Sofia museum be converted to a mosque for Muslims on Friday and have it be a church for Sunday’s (we were to come up with inter faith or inter community peace programs or offerings and then our peers would critique it). A Turk in the class told me while he appreciated the sentiment, allowing it to be converted to a religious institution would serve as a Trojan horse (his words) for Islamists.

I found that very educating.

(Junior Ambassador Internship Program).

2 CuriousLurker  Thu, Apr 11, 2013 1:52:40pm

re: #1 Destro

When in Europe in college I proposed having the Saint Sofia museum be converted to a mosque for Muslims on Friday and have it be a church for Sunday’s (we were to come up with inter faith or inter community peace programs or offerings and then our peers would critique it). A Turk in the class told me while he appreciated the sentiment, allowing it to be converted to a religious institution would serve as a Trojan horse (his words) for Islamists.

Interesting. Sounds like he knew what he was talking about.

(Junior Ambassador Internship Program).

Seriously? No offense, but I can’t resist—considering your personality (at least the online one) I just don’t see diplomacy being a good career fit. // ;)

3 Destro  Fri, Apr 12, 2013 6:59:48am

re: #2 CuriousLurker

Interesting. Sounds like he knew what he was talking about.

Seriously? No offense, but I can’t resist—considering your personality (at least the online one) I just don’t see diplomacy being a good career fit. // ;)

I am told I am very charming in a roguish way. Also, when I decide something is wrong or not the way it should be, I can’t restrain open hostility towards it. I will try and tamp down my open hostility and contempt for people holding onto wrong headed ideas that clearly don’t work or are regressive or stupid but it is not easy for me.

In this course that I mentioned, I also came up with the idea the West Bank and Gaza being given independence and as compensation for the Palestinians not being granted the right of return in Israel, they would have their property rights restored and be able to charge rent to Israelis living on the property. The hope being that getting rent money from Israelis suddenly makes Palestinians have a vested interest in keeping Israel around and prosperous and the cash infusion would be direct to Palestinian individuals and would be immediate. You lose the right of return but you retain rights of property and personal property ownership does not denote national ownership.

When I proposed this, it was so out of the box - if I recall - no one knew what to do with it or comment on it.

4 Destro  Fri, Apr 12, 2013 11:28:36am

re: #2 CuriousLurker

PS: On diplomacy not being a good fit for a job for me. In the internship I found out that pretty much you have to be a drone to policy. You carry out orders and policies you don’t agree with - sort of like soldiers who follow orders (legal orders) but don’t actually agree with or support the war / mission.

I could not do that.

Also, I was working on a getting into academia not diplomacy before I was offered work in multinational corporations needing people to navigate emerging market minefields. I would rather have worked in academia but I could not resist the pay in the private sector.

5 CuriousLurker  Fri, Apr 12, 2013 3:33:51pm

re: #3 Destro

I am told I am very charming in a roguish way. Also, when I decide something is wrong or not the way it should be, I can’t restrain open hostility towards it. I will try and tamp down my open hostility and contempt for people holding onto wrong headed ideas that clearly don’t work or are regressive or stupid but it is not easy for me.

The older I get the less black & white many situations seem to be. There are almost always unknown factors at play, and we all see things through the lens of our cultural background, family upbringing, and individual personalities.

The world is divided into people who think they’re right. —Anonymous

6 CuriousLurker  Fri, Apr 12, 2013 3:37:13pm

re: #4 Destro

Also, I was working on a getting into academia not diplomacy before I was offered work in multinational corporations needing people to navigate emerging market minefields. I would rather have worked in academia but I could not resist the pay in the private sector.

Wait—so you sold out to the capitalists you’re always inveighing against? //

7 Destro  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 12:33:52pm

re: #6 CuriousLurker

You mistake capitalism with free market. It’s a common mistake - especially in America.

8 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 1:27:56pm

re: #7 Destro

You mistake capitalism with free market. It’s a common mistake - especially in America.

You’re right, I looked it up. I just wanted to take a poke at you—I don’t know squat about economics or anything that has to do with math, my mortal enemy).

Anyway, it’s all good as I learned something, namely that there’s an extremely useful site called Investopedia that not only defines, but also explains terms like “free market” in clear language that people (like me) without a business background can easily understand:

Free Market

Definition of ‘Free Market’
A market economy based on supply and demand with little or no government control. A completely free market is an idealized form of a market economy where buyers and sellers are allowed to transact freely (i.e. buy/sell/trade) based on a mutual agreement on price without state intervention in the form of taxes, subsidies or regulation.

In financial markets, free market stocks are securities that are widely traded and whose prices are not affected by availability.

In foreign-exchange markets, it is a market where exchange rates are not pegged (by government) and thus rise and fall freely though supply and demand for currency.

Investopedia explains ‘Free Market’
In simple terms, a free market is a summary term for an array of exchanges that take place in society. Each exchange is a voluntary agreement between two parties who trade in the form of goods and services. In reality, this is the extent to which a free market exists since there will always be government intervention in the form of taxes, price controls and restrictions that prevent new competitors from entering a market. Just like supply-side economics, free market is a term used to describe a political or ideological viewpoint on policy and is not a field within economics.

That last sentence that makes a distinction between politics/ideology and the actual science of economics is an important point, IMO.

9 Destro  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 6:55:14pm

re: #8 CuriousLurker

Look up “Social Market” for further distinction.

bmwi.de

10 CuriousLurker  Sat, Apr 13, 2013 7:00:10pm

re: #9 Destro

Thanks.


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