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1 Decatur Deb  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 1:13:42pm

He’s not even ‘up there’ among recent GOP presidents.

2 sagehen  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 2:28:52pm

I don’t even put Reagan in my list of “3 best Republican Presidents since WWII” —

for the record, I adore Eisenhower in every possible category, Bush the Elder gets an A for foreign policy/national security and a B for economics, and Nixon’s domestic legislative record is awesome enough that even after deducting for the things he deserves marked down for, he still averages out higher than the guy who brought voodoo economics, deregulatory frenzy, union busting, and installed the religious whackos as arbiters of Republican primaries…

3 majii  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:23:29pm

Rove is saying this because he’s plotting, ahead of time, a way he can garner donations for his PACs for 2014. He knows he’s on the sh*t list of many republicans, and that the best way he can get back into their good graces is to continue praising Reagen first, GWB second.

4 Skip Intro  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:40:51pm

I can only imagine how pissed off Rush Limbaugh is that Rove bothmentioned that commie bastard FDR and rated him above Junior.

5 EPR-radar  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 4:43:13pm

re: #4 Skip Intro

I can only imagine how pissed off Rush Limbaugh is that Rove even mentioned that commie bastard FDR and rated him above Junior.

Well, Rove did mention Reagan right after Washington and Lincoln and before FDR…

Not bad for a guy who started much of the RWNJ crap that is so obnoxiously coming to fruition these days.

6 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 9:14:27pm

I’d actually take Bush over Reagan but FDR, Lincoln, and Washington. Sorry Karl but stop smoking crack. And I wouldn’t put Clinton or Obama there either. Truman or Teddy Roosevelt are above average presidents. Bush is average at best.

7 HappyWarrior  Fri, Apr 26, 2013 9:15:32pm

re: #2 sagehen

I don’t even put Reagan in my list of “3 best Republican Presidents since WWII” —

for the record, I adore Eisenhower in every possible category, Bush the Elder gets an A for foreign policy/national security and a B for economics, and Nixon’s domestic legislative record is awesome enough that even after deducting for the things he deserves marked down for, he still averages out higher than the guy who brought voodoo economics, deregulatory frenzy, union busting, and installed the religious whackos as arbiters of Republican primaries…

Seriously- Reagan most overrated president of the last sixty five years. He doesn’t belong up there with FDR, Washington, and Lincoln. And I agree I’d take Eisenhower, Nixon, and Bush I over him, hell part of me would take Bush II over him in a way.

8 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 6:11:11am

Can’t say I’m surprised. Rove and his fellow travellers aren’t the type to say,” In our quest for power and glory we did far more damage than good. Mea culpa.”

9 Iwouldprefernotto  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 7:49:40am

I agree that Bush Jr is below Reagan. not saying much.

10 aagcobb  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 1:45:06pm

Among Presidents of my lifetime, I would rate only Nixon under Dubya. Sorry Nixon fans, but he caused too much damage with the war and his evil influence on the course of domestic politics to make up for it with what good he did.

11 SidewaysQuark  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 2:50:13pm

re: #5 EPR-radar

Well, Rove did mention Reagan right after Washington and Lincoln and before FDR…

Not bad for a guy who started much of the RWNJ crap that is so obnoxiously coming to fruition these days.

A very low standard.

12 BLUE POINT 09  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 3:17:38pm

Yeah. Right up there. You betcha. Uh huh. Yep. No shame for the shameless. And I was stupid enough at the time to vote for this fucking idiot.

13 stabby  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 6:32:23pm

You’ll note that GW wasn’t invited to anything the Republican party has done since the end of his presidency. They’ve been trying hard to forget he ever existed. Which is too bad because, for all his flaws he wasn’t a heartless tea party, racist POS like the creeps who run his party now.

14 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 7:06:14pm

re: #4 Skip Intro

I can only imagine how pissed off Rush Limbaugh is that Rove bothmentioned that commie bastard FDR and rated him above Junior.

He did that because he isn’t insane. As a writer in National Review put it in 1999 regarding FDR “How can he not be called ‘Great’?”. The challenges FDR confronted and generally overcame were of such dreadful magnitude that he that overcame them was great simply be definition. Even if you don’t agree with much of what FDR did, he was still the President needed in a very bad time, and that makes him great. Of the 20th Century presidents, I’d say he was the greatest of all.

15 BongCrodny  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 8:29:23pm

How would I rank Bush’s presidency?

It’s rank.

16 aagcobb  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 9:21:03pm

re: #14 Dark_Falcon

He did that because he isn’t insane. As a writer in National Review put it in 1999 regarding FDR “How can he not be called ‘Great’?”. The challenges FDR confronted and generally overcame were of such dreadful magnitude that he that overcame them was great simply be definition. Even if you don’t agree with much of what FDR did, he was still the President needed in a very bad time, and that makes him great. Of the 20th Century presidents, I’d say he was the greatest of all.

Basically, the greatest president of all time has to be either FDR or Lincoln. Lincoln led the nation through the greatest crisis in American history, and FDR led the nation through two of the greatest crises in world history.

17 SidewaysQuark  Mon, Apr 29, 2013 11:21:55am

re: #13 stabby

You’ll note that GW wasn’t invited to anything the Republican party has done since the end of his presidency. They’ve been trying hard to forget he ever existed. Which is too bad because, for all his flaws he wasn’t a heartless tea party, racist POS like the creeps who run his party now.

No, but he did allow himself to be walked all over by them.

I honestly thought the man had high aspirations in the beginning, and had high hopes for him at the start. I really do think 9-11 broke him, and he became the Republican hierarchy’s chew toy for the next 8 years.


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