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1 Major Tom  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 6:45:26am

Yep. The transporter is a murder/clone machine. But in many episodes it has been the method to cure aging, diseases, stop contamination, and even perform organ transplants without a drop of blood being shed… Hell, there is even another Riker roaming around the universe because of it! But you’d never see me on in one of those, should they make one.

2 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 6:54:56am

I forgot about the alternate Riker!

3 Randall Gross  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 8:36:02am

I agree that there’s no loss of continuity during sleep, your brain is just “differently active”, as evidenced by EEG’s taken during sleep.

4 Kragar  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 9:51:24am

I forget the story, but I remember reading a story where basically the transporters were just interstellar cloners. Ship travel would take decades, so they were basically just transport platforms. A person would get in the system, get scanned and walk out, while another version of them was created and put into a terrible situation somewhere else in the galaxy.

5 Randall Gross  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 10:18:04am

A long time ago I read an SF story about a female detective who had a clone in a tank that would have it’s memories updated with hers weekly, and when she died the clone would wake up, but missing the crucial memories of who had killed her and where. Anyone recall that or the name of it? I’d love to re read it.

6 SidewaysQuark  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 10:30:49am

If there is no way of observing whether or not you are suddenly killed and replaced with an exact replica, I’d think that the event had no operational meaning at all.

7 jaunte  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 10:32:02am

re: #5 Randall Gross

I don’t think the Takeshi Kovacs stories are what you remember, but they deal with that similar issue of clones and missing memories

8 recurvata  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 10:54:06am

In one sense, ‘you’ are a different you every moment. Cells are constantly dying and being created.

9 recurvata  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 10:58:21am

Also, was there ever an explanation in Star Trek as to how the transporter worked? An alternative to the disassemble/reassemble method is that the transporter is more like a directed wormhole machine. You are in fact transported in this scenario.

10 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 11:12:02pm

re: #5 Randall Gross

A long time ago I read an SF story about a female detective who had a clone in a tank that would have it’s memories updated with hers weekly, and when she died the clone would wake up, but missing the crucial memories of who had killed her and where. Anyone recall that or the name of it? I’d love to re read it.

OMG! I’ve read a several with that basic theme. Now, I can’t remember a one.

11 FemNaziBitch  Sat, Apr 27, 2013 11:15:06pm

re: #9 recurvata

Also, was there ever an explanation in Star Trek as to how the transporter worked? An alternative to the disassemble/reassemble method is that the transporter is more like a directed wormhole machine. You are in fact transported in this scenario.

hmm. I think the wormhole transport idea was used in a different method in a couple of episodes. Somehow, I remember something about creating a singularity that would open in a specific area, in VOY. They didn’t do it often because it was unstable.

I always wondered about the whole “ansible” idea. If you could just create two of you that would react simulatneously, wouldn’t that work as well?


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