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1 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Apr 30, 2013 1:26:07pm

Next up…getting rid of actual trials because

out of control gubmint spending on frivlus justis!!11!!

2 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Apr 30, 2013 1:27:05pm

Isn’t it interesting that when it’s one of theirs, they are the first to cry out for “change of venue” because there’s “no chance of a fair trial”.
But anyone else…book ‘em, cook ‘em…

3 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Apr 30, 2013 2:03:48pm
“Only God can judge,” Matt Gaetz, a Republican who sponsored the bill in the House of Representatives, said last week during House debate. “But we sure can set up the meeting.”

Are you sure you want to go there, Rep. Gaetz? Because when you meet God, He may not be pleased with your actions. Killing innocent people, regardless of the weapons used, is murder.

4 EPR-radar  Tue, Apr 30, 2013 2:12:24pm

So, the Florida GOP has essentially become a death cult, and the GOP at the national level is not far behind.

Dear allegedly sane people who still vote for the GOP, please note that this kind of madness is what you are often supporting with your votes.

5 BLUE POINT 09  Tue, Apr 30, 2013 2:45:27pm

When they say that ” government ” is trying to take away your rights and strangle your liberty and freedom they are perfectly right. The Republican form of government is as close to Fascism as you will get without calling it that. Orwellian. New Speak. They are who our Founding Fathers were fighting against.

6 Etaoin Shrdlu  Tue, Apr 30, 2013 5:02:53pm

“This Court has never held that the Constitution forbids the execution of a convicted defendant who has had a full and fair trial but is later able to convince a habeas court that he is ‘actually’ innocent.” — Supreme Court ‘Justice’ Antonin Scalia

7 RealityBasedSteve  Tue, Apr 30, 2013 5:15:38pm

And these are the exact people who are screaming about the accused Boston bomber being appointed a skilled public defender. I really don’t think that there is any doubt about his guilt as a point of fact, but it is the job of the government to prove the charges beyond a reasonable doubt, and he is entitled to a competent and qualified defense. I’ve seen numerous bloggers and posters in the nutzo land state that he should basically be stripped of all constitutional rights, shipped off to Gitmo, and if something bad should happen to him enroute, oh-well, too bad.

I am against the death penalty in principal, not because I have a moral reservation about someone who is truly guilty being put to death, but because more and more it seems that it’s a crap-shoot on if the person convicted is even the right person. Prosecutorial misconduct, police malfeasance and court appointed council incompetentence can combine to put an innocent man on a one way trip.

I’m not on the right, so I don’t have all the answers wrapped up in a bullet point or a bumper sticker. I think that something has to be done system wide, and lets start by making sure that nobody is killed by mistake just because we want it “Quick”.

But Republican Senator Rob Bradley said, “this is not about guilt or innocence, it’s about timely justice.” Frivolous appeals designed only for delay are not fair to victims and their families, he said. ‘cuz we all know that there is nothing un-fair about putting a truly innocent man to death because we’ve got a deadline to meet.

This people disgust and scare me more and more, and I don’t scare easy, I was married to a red-headed cajun for a while.

RBS
Rambled a bit here, but there is just so much anger in me right now

8 calochortus  Tue, Apr 30, 2013 9:13:58pm

re: #7 RealityBasedSteve

Plus, even if for some reason it’s OK to kill an innocent person in the name of “justice”, have any of these fools stopped to think that for every innocent person executed, there is an actual criminal out there who is a danger to society?
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