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1 BLUE POINT 09  Thu, May 2, 2013 11:25:43am

Have their doctor tell them they have treatable cancer, but it’s God’s Will, therefore we will do nothing. Now go contemplate your life. Sometimes I get a glimpse of pure insanity all dressed up in “faith”.

2 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 2, 2013 12:25:39pm

The really horrifying part of this is that it means there is NO WAY to ever reach these deniers with reason or logic or science.

3 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, May 2, 2013 12:47:55pm

I remember when these people were dismissed as harmless nuts. Times have changed. They are still nuts, but they are definitely not harmless. It is amazing and bizarre that beliefs like this are a major political force in the 21st century. In a large part of the country, you cannot be elected to office without endorsing their superstition or at least treating it with some kind of mealy-mouthed respectability.

4 calochortus  Thu, May 2, 2013 12:51:14pm

Just another example of how well-suited our brains are to life 10,000 years ago as opposed to, say, in the modern world.

5 Dr Lizardo  Thu, May 2, 2013 12:53:08pm

re: #3 Shiplord Kirel

I remember when these people were dismissed as harmless nuts. Times have changed. They are still nuts, but they are definitely not harmless. It is amazing and bizarre that beliefs like this are a major political force in the 21st century. In a large part of the country, you cannot be elected to office without endorsing their superstition or at least treating it with some kind of mealy-mouthed respectability.

They were harmless nuts until the mid to late 1970s; then they started gaining access to the levers of power.

It’s all been downhill every since.

6 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Thu, May 2, 2013 1:36:39pm

It is bad enough if you reject sound science because of a desire for some extra cash. I had assumed this group represented the majority of deniers. But it takes a real special kind of asshole to hear about a global disaster that could end humanity and think “Excellent, just what I have been waiting for”.

Humans have been on this planet for a microscopic fraction of the time that has elapsed since the formation of our universe. In our time we have done some amazing things. Learning to live together with each other and our environment in ever greater numbers hasn’t always been an easy process. It is easy to look at the current state of things and take the cynical view. But I see the arrow of history as a squiggly line in the direction of gradual improvement. We have made the inevitable missteps because, unfortunately IMO, there really isn’t a manual for this being a human stuff and we are far from perfect even if there were.

I see humans as a species that could continue to do great things. We live on a planet we have barely explored, and there is a whole universe awaiting beyond that. We could reach for the farthest depths of our oceans, the reaches of space and time, or maybe beyond the horizon to other dimensions and realities. We could understand our own lives and deaths in more depth as well as that of other organisms that share our vast universe, known and unknown. But of course all this means solving the greatest problems that we face as a species in the present. That includes things like climate change. So if you don’t want to deal with important problems that we face, whether because of ideology or cynicism, then I send to you my most heartfelt FUCK YOU.

7 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter  Thu, May 2, 2013 1:38:59pm

re: #5 Dr Lizardo

Unfortunately I think that this is the real outcome of ignoring trolls. They just network and nibble at the edges of the extreme until they amass enough members and aren’t trolls anymore, but rather a “movement”.

8 sizzzzlerz  Thu, May 2, 2013 2:11:39pm

I’d always thought that these dicks would bring about armageddon by launching nuclear missiles in order that they would then be able to go meet jesus. Never would I have envisioned they’d accomplish the same goals by ignoring environmental catastrophe red flags.

I really wish that if they’re so anxious to meet their god that they take the shotgun shortcut and leave the rest of us to clean up their messes. Truly, religion has become the most dangerous, and possibly fatal, to mankinds ultimate survival.

9 Dr Lizardo  Thu, May 2, 2013 2:20:13pm

re: #7 Prononymous, rogue demon hunter

Unfortunately I think that this is the real outcome of ignoring trolls. They just network and nibble at the edges of the extreme until they amass enough members and aren’t trolls anymore, but rather a “movement”.

That’s true. People tend to ignore fringe loonies until those very fringe loonies become a “movement”. Look at Islamic fundamentalism or Christian fundamentalism - in the mid 70s, they existed, of course, but they were widely ridiculed as rubes, hicks and backwoods bumpkins.

No one’s laughing anymore, either in the West or in the Islamic world. The cornpone country hicks crystalized into a powerful - and damned dangerous - religious movement in both instances.

10 Skip Intro  Thu, May 2, 2013 3:44:53pm

re: #8 sizzzzlerz

I’d always thought that these dicks would bring about armageddon by launching nuclear missiles in order that they would then be able to go meet jesus. Never would I have envisioned they’d accomplish the same goals by ignoring environmental catastrophe red flags.

I’m sure they haven’t forgotten the nuclear option. It’s completely viable if climate change takes too long.


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