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1 jvic  Mon, May 20, 2013 12:57:20pm

Isn’t the espionage?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I do not dispute the government’s right to prosecute the leaker. I also do not dispute that national security can be invoked to prevent the publication of, e.g. the itinerary of WMD materials while they are en route. However, afaic this incident does not rise to such an extremely exceptional degree of seriousness. In other words, IMO the government cannot legitimately go after the reporter.

Cf. the Pentagon Papers case.

2 sauceruney  Mon, May 20, 2013 1:19:44pm

This is what the media gets for not doing its job the past 15-20 years.

3 Locker  Mon, May 20, 2013 2:48:35pm

re: #1 jvic

Not that it’s official or anything but the Wikipedia entry is the one which caused me to ask that question.

en.wikipedia.org

Espionage or spying involves a government or individual obtaining information considered secret or confidential without the permission of the holder of the information. Espionage is inherently clandestine, as it is taken for granted that it is unwelcome and, in many cases illegal and punishable by law. It is a subset of intelligence gathering, which otherwise may be conducted from public sources and using perfectly legal and ethical means. It is crucial to distinguish espionage from intelligence gathering, as the latter does not necessarily involve espionage, but often collates open-source information.

4 PeterWolf  Mon, May 20, 2013 8:49:34pm

Imagine if Kim had leaked the same information to an agent of North Korea, Iran or, Hamas. I can imagine the outcry and that the leak would undoubtedly be a case of espionage, and treason.

But instead, he leaks it a Fox new reporter, who then publishes the information where it can happily be read by, anyone.

Hard to tell which could be more damaging to national security.

I certainly do believe in the freedom of press. But there’s also a certain responsibility involved and knowingly publishing classified information for little but competitive advantage does seem….wrong.


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