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1 socrets  Sun, Jun 23, 2013 7:15:21am

A highly appropriate song for this moment.

2 piratedan  Sun, Jun 23, 2013 7:19:30am

I think this may be applicable too somehow

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3 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Jun 23, 2013 7:45:33am

This came to mind, too.
Youtube Video

4 sauceruney  Sun, Jun 23, 2013 8:00:44am

It wouldn’t be surprising if he were still working for the CIA.

5 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Jun 23, 2013 8:12:58am

re: #4 sauceruney

It wouldn’t be surprising if he were still working for the CIA.

He was never a field agent, so if he really is an agent now, he’s played a lot of people for fools.

Me? I think he’s a sysadmin with delusions of grandeur, who has successfully recruited Glenn Greenwald, Julian Assange and WikiLeaks to protect his skinny little ass from the law. Given his route so far, I suspect he contacted WikiLeaks before he even left the USA.

6 piratedan  Sun, Jun 23, 2013 8:14:57am

re: #5 wheat-dogghazi

He was never a field agent, so if he really is an agent now, he’s played a lot of people for fools.

Me? I think he’s a sysadmin with delusions of grandeur, who has successfully recruited Glenn Greenwald, Julian Assange and WikiLeaks to protect his skinny little ass from the law. Given his route so far, I suspect he contacted WikiLeaks before he even left the USA.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he did it for the cash and 15 minutes of fame. What motivates folks is very often beyond my ability to ken.

7 sauceruney  Sun, Jun 23, 2013 8:20:40am

re: #5 wheat-dogghazi

It would be the ultimate playing lots of people for fools, which is why I said it.

I really feel annoyed with my twitter timeline at the moment. I just hope the president, of all people, sees the irony in how Snowden’s using Bradley Manning as an excuse for his globetrotting to asylum. He was supposed to help the US regain the moral high ground after the human rights abuses of Iraq/Afghanistan, and he’s utterly bungled the job.

8 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Jun 23, 2013 8:34:16am

re: #6 piratedan

I wouldn’t be surprised if he did it for the cash and 15 minutes of fame. What motivates folks is very often beyond my ability to ken.

So far, I haven’t heard or read anything about Snowden getting paid for this little caper. He may manage to turn it into a book, or movie project. There was a moviemaker with him at some point in his travels.

Fame (or infamy) he’s got, in spades. If he’s going to Cuba or Caracas, I wouldn’t be surprised if he had some intel for them, too. He’s the Johnny Appleseed of NSA secrets.

9 piratedan  Sun, Jun 23, 2013 8:37:07am

re: #8 wheat-dogghazi

So far, I haven’t heard or read anything about Snowden getting paid for this little caper. He may manage to turn it into a book, or movie project. There was a moviemaker with him at some point in his travels.

Fame (or infamy) he’s got, in spades. If he’s going to Cuba or Caracas, I wouldn’t be surprised if he had some intel for them, too. He’s the Johnny Appleseed of NSA secrets.

well somebody had to pay for the 600.00 a day room in HK and tbh, I can’t say what’s in his bank accounts as of yet, but he’s had enough scratch to fly to HK, stay for a couple of weeks and now pop onto a plane to Russia… I think it’s likely that he’s not paying his own way but I could be wrong.

10 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Jun 23, 2013 8:39:03am

re: #7 sauceruney

Obama is a pragmatist. If you were hoping he’d be the liberal that would reform Washington, you were sorely deluded. But we are talking about two things here. The first is the domestic eavesdropping that the NSA allegedly has done. That I have some issues with. The second is Snowden spilling the beans to foreign governments about USA electronic espionage. That’s another thing entirely, and Snowden has hurt his first cause by moving on to the second phase of his leaks.

11 wheat-dogghazi  Sun, Jun 23, 2013 8:41:38am

re: #9 piratedan

According to Snowden, he was pulling in big bucks. And we don’t really know what his hotel room cost. It’s pretty clear, though, that WikiLeaks is involved and probably made the arrangements for the flights to Moscow and onward.

12 sauceruney  Sun, Jun 23, 2013 8:50:52am

re: #10 wheat-dogghazi


Say what you will about my personal delusions about right and wrong, this is now being used against us. I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said in regard to how he’s hurt his own cause, but we still have to realize there’s more at play than what’s on the surface.

13 philosophus invidius  Sun, Jun 23, 2013 8:52:53am

re: #6 piratedan

Once you’ve made $200K, it’s hard to adjust to a $120K lifestyle.

14 piratedan  Sun, Jun 23, 2013 9:01:40am

re: #13 philosophus invidius

Once you’ve made $200K, it’s hard to adjust to a $120K lifestyle.

curse Obama and this economic ennui he’s put us all into! //

15 HSG  Sun, Jun 23, 2013 10:43:53am

Snowden is reportedly now headed to Ecuador and is seeking asylum there:

wikileaks.org

bbc.co.uk

16 HSG  Sun, Jun 23, 2013 8:04:31pm

Snowden’s whirlwind tour has overshadowed what he did yesterday, which was deliberately kick Uncle Sam in the crown jewels and give China a helping hand by revealing covert US activity involving China. This ended up getting little attention in the press. This was done for no reason other than to be vindictive, or to possibly broker the chance for departure from Hong Kong.

These two articles sum up his actions over the weekend before he fled like a little girl who finds a spider on her Barbie:

telegraph.co.uk

scmp.com


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