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1 Romantic Heretic  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 5:35:41pm

I wish the news people had some tiny idea about military vehicles. That’s not a tank.

It’s an armoured car. This one, I think: M38 Wolfhound.

How can people form accurate opinions on things if they don’t receive accurate information?

2 Skip Intro  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 5:40:33pm

re: #1 Romantic Heretic

I wish the news people had some tiny idea about military vehicles. That’s not a tank.

It’s an armoured car. This one, I think: M38 Wolfhound.

How can people form accurate opinions on things if they don’t receive accurate information?

The vehicle was inoperable, but “over 100 firearms, rifles and shotguns, 15,000 to 20,000 rounds of ammunition, buckets of black (gun) powder, hand grenades” and other military ordinance weren’t. That’s what I’d focus on.

3 lawhawk  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 5:45:46pm

Lohud is reporting that it was an accidental death - he was apparently cleaning a weapon when it discharged killing him. Friends and colleagues had no idea that he had collected such a large bunch of weapons, including the armored vehicle.

He was making his own ammo too.

“He cleans the guns and polishes them up,” Johnson said of Orser. “He was found on the floor, surrounded by rifles and shotguns.”

Investigators questioning Orser’s friends learned that Orser, a plumber and heating, ventilating and air-conditioning contractor, was a gun aficionado and survivalist who possibly had automatic weapons in the house.

As they arrived to remove those, they discovered Orser also had explosives and munitions, including tracer rounds, buckets of gunpowder — he made his own bullets — six improvised grenades, about 300 20 mm machine gun rounds and 23 military mechanical time fuses, Johnson said.

Police also found blasting caps, which Johnson said are fragile and “could have caused the whole house to go up and maybe surrounding houses.”

“He is a survivalist. He deals with guns, he goes to gun shows,” Johnson said of Orser. “He supposedly was a firearms expert and a safety instructor also.”

The discovery of illegal explosives prompted evacuations of nearby homes while the explosives were removed. The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and the Westchester County Bomb Squad were called in about 6 p.m. Thursday.

He had bought the vehicle and shown it in parades. The gun barrel had been plugged and was inoperable.

The main concern was the large amount of explosives and ammo.

4 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:14:01pm

re: #2 Skip Intro

The vehicle was inoperable, but “over 100 firearms, rifles and shotguns, 15,000 to 20,000 rounds of ammunition, buckets of black (gun) powder, hand grenades” and other military ordinance weren’t. That’s what I’d focus on.

It’s a pet peeve that RH and I share: We both get annoyed by media people who call any armored vehicle a ‘tank’.

To be fair, though, given that in this case the armored car does have a turret with a (deactivated) cannon the mistake is somewhat understandable.

5 Shiplord Kirel  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 6:14:47pm

The armored car is an Alvis Saladin, armed with a 76mm L/23 gun.
During the Vietnam War, the Australian army took a Saladin turret and grafted it bodily onto the hull of the US M113 APC, turning the latter into a fairly effective light tank. This was called FSV (fire support vehicle) officially, but the soldiers always referred to it as “the Beast.” Similar vehicles, with the same gun but the lighter and more modern Scorpion turret, are still in service today.

6 jonhendry  Fri, Jun 28, 2013 7:28:39pm

re: #1 Romantic Heretic

“I wish the news people had some tiny idea about military vehicles. That’s not a tank.”

It’s close enough. Precision of terminology would matter if it were going up against other armored vehicles. Yes, if this guy were going into battle with it against tanks, it would be important to know the difference in capability.

In a civilian context, if it were armed and operable and not decommissioned and used in anger, it might as well be a tank. Because it’d be fighting unarmored, unarmed vehicles and soft targets.

That said, decommissioned armored vehicles are pretty common, so it’s nothing to get excited about, even if it was an actual tank.

7 Sol Berdinowitz  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 4:36:07am

This guys is the tip of the iceberg. If we see a breakdown of civil authority over a large area or in a major urban center, these guys are going to come out of the woodwork shooting and make things look like another Somalia…

8 Romantic Heretic  Sat, Jun 29, 2013 5:12:14am

re: #5 Shiplord Kirel

Thanks. I wasn’t entirely happy with my identification. The gun didn’t look quite right for starters. But it was the closest I could find with a few minutes research.

Thanks again.


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