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1 Sol Berdinowitz  Tue, Jul 16, 2013 12:49:27pm

Churches are non-profit corporations, and non-profit corporations are non-profit people, right?

Which means that the government should f*ck ‘em and feed ‘em fish heads like they do with the rest of the non-profit people…

2 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jul 16, 2013 12:55:07pm

re: #1 Sol Berdinowitz

Churches are non-profit corporations, and non-profit corporations are non-profit people, right?

Which means that the government should f*ck ‘em and feed ‘em fish heads like they do with the rest of the non-profit people…

And they’re the ones who the GOP keep saying will step up and help out in rebuilding after a disaster…
Who knew they were so incapable that they need FEMA? (Mennonites and Amish excluded from that question…)

3 Flounder  Tue, Jul 16, 2013 1:26:22pm

From the FEMA website:

The mission of the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s (FEMA) Public Assistance (PA) Grant Program is to provide assistance to State, Tribal and local governments, and certain types of Private Nonprofit organizations so that communities can quickly respond to and recover from major disasters or emergencies declared by the President.

Through the PA Program, FEMA provides supplemental Federal disaster grant assistance for debris removal, emergency protective measures, and the repair, replacement, or restoration of disaster-damaged, publicly owned facilities and the facilities of certain Private Non-Profit (PNP) organizations. The PA Program also encourages protection of these damaged facilities from future events by providing assistance for hazard mitigation measures during the recovery process.

The Federal share of assistance is not less than 75% of the eligible cost for emergency measures and permanent restoration. The grantee (usually the State) determines how the non-Federal share (up to 25%) is split with the subgrantees (eligible applicants).

After my rather successful cut and paste, further reading of the FEMA website shows that houses of worship need not apply.

I don’t have a problem with low percentage loans to rebuild however.

4 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jul 16, 2013 1:48:15pm

re: #3 Flounder

I don’t have a problem with low percentage loans to rebuild however.

I don’t have a problem with that either. Last disaster for me, FEMA reimbursed me for the loss of my chainsaw and my generator (it was a massive icestorm and we were without commercial power for more than two weeks). But for the rest of the damage (that insurance company “Act of God, we don’t have to pay anything”), SBA gave me a low interest loan for repairs and replacement.

5 SidewaysQuark  Tue, Jul 16, 2013 2:17:14pm

As long as one faith’s house of worship is not treated any differently than another’s, I don’t see the constitutional issue here.

6 Political Atheist  Tue, Jul 16, 2013 2:22:30pm

re: #3 Flounder

Ah but if the Church provides certain public services, like a public space for meetings or a homeless shelter they can apply and sometimes get money.


re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth

I don’t have a problem with that either. Last disaster for me, FEMA reimbursed me for the loss of my chainsaw and my generator (it was a massive icestorm and we were without commercial power for more than two weeks). But for the rest of the damage (that insurance company “Act of God, we don’t have to pay anything”), SBA gave me a low interest loan for repairs and replacement.

You know what trouble I’d love to start? Tell the insurance company to either prove God exists or pay up. Or subrogate… (Send God the bill)

7 Flounder  Tue, Jul 16, 2013 2:47:15pm

re: #4 Backwoods_Sleuth

What kinda chainsaw?! I am currently running a Husky 575xp, it makes beautiful music.

8 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Jul 16, 2013 3:20:35pm

re: #7 Flounder

What kinda chainsaw?! I am currently running a Husky 575xp, it makes beautiful music.

It was a Stihl that got burned up removing two miles worth of downed trees on our road. FEMA paid for a used Poulan, which is still working very well after almost 10 years.


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