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1 hartly  Thu, Jul 18, 2013 6:22:02am

Best historical of all time: The Aztecs. Barbara Wright is way tougher than any of the overrated companions of NuWho. Let’s see Donna Noble pull off the impersonating an Aztec goddess thing.

2 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, Jul 18, 2013 9:08:45am

re: #1 hartly

And congratulations for showing some of the obnoxious attitudes that Doctor Who fans run into.

Yes, I am a fan of the new series. However, unlike you, I don’t go out of the way to bash the other side of the fence. There are quite a number of Companion Misfires in Classic Who to be honest.

However, I do intend on watch Classic Who (excepting some very poor serials), starting in the next week. So, I am going to go out on a limb here and say my attitude in regards to Doctor Who is better than yours.

3 hartly  Thu, Jul 18, 2013 9:30:25am

Look, I’m just calling it the way I see it. I admit, it sticks in my craw a little that NuWho deals so much with “first world” issues like self-esteem and family squabbles. If you’re favorite childhood show switched from adveturous sci-fi to Steel Magnolias in space, wouldn’t you be a little cheesed?

4 S.D.  Thu, Jul 18, 2013 10:09:11am

(Unpacks the Flame Thrower)
Kidding, this was a good write up of a good show.

I’ll miss Matt Smith. The last 3 Doctors were really good and have set the bar really high…

5 JeffFX  Thu, Jul 18, 2013 10:10:18am

re: #2 ProTARDISLiberal

And congratulations for showing some of the obnoxious attitudes that Doctor Who fans run into.

Assuming hartly didn’t edit post #1, it is you who’s being obnoxious. How can you be so un-self-aware as to write that sentence?

If hartly did edit out obnoxiousness, let me know, and I’ll adjust my comment ratings.

6 hartly  Thu, Jul 18, 2013 10:23:14am

re#5 - JeffFX I appreciate your coming to my defense, but it’s no big deal. PTL’s comment really didn’t bug me, and to be fair, while I did not edit post #1 I have said things re Dr. Who on other posts that could be interpreted as obnoxious. Sorry, but this is the one topic that really gets my goat.

7 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, Jul 18, 2013 1:37:53pm

re: #4 S.D.

No, that is next week, when I finish going through Series 6. Keep the Flame-Thrower out.

re: #3 hartly

See, what I find obnoxious is this whole NuWho>OldWho, or the opposite occurring. Sci-Fi elements are still dominating.

And as for the emotional elements? I like them. It will keep the show from falling into the same stupid divot that many sci-fi stories and fandoms fall into. Namely the old “Sci-Fi doesn’t understand emotions” issue. Sci-Fi without emotion is neglecting an essential part of the human condition. That we are often guided by emotion, and my react illogically. A good example would be “The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit.” Why did the Human Explorers go to a planet in a orbit incredibly close to a Black Hole? “Because it was there.” The Human impulse of finding out why the odd thing is there, and how it is there.

Sci-Fi shouldn’t just be able Scientific Terms and theories. It should also be about how Humans/Sentient Beings react to bizarre and interesting circumstances. Besides all that, Doctor Who has always been Soft-Sci-Fi.

To round that off, we have Craig Ferguson, a host of the Late Late Show on CBS with this comment on Doctor Who. He is a Whovian who loves both Old and New Who. This is his quote.

It’s all about the triumph of intellect and romance over brute force and cynicism.

And I wouldn’t have it any other way. I’d rather Doctor not fall into the same hole that Star Trek and Star Wars are in.

re: #5 JeffFX

My reading of his comment is essentially “Old Who is better than New Who.” And I have seen enough of that attitude from the Final Fantasy fans to the point that my tolerance of it is zilch. So, the moment I hear that attitude, I respond.

8 JeffFX  Thu, Jul 18, 2013 2:40:17pm

re: #7 ProTARDISLiberal

Old who does have better stories than new, but that’s just because there’s more of it. It has worse stories too.


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