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1 Carlos Diggler  Mon, Jul 22, 2013 10:16:36am

Hey, look at Texas.

Seems like proof that a lot of interest in the story revolved around gun/self defense law and Stand Your Ground statutes.

2 celticdragon  Mon, Jul 22, 2013 10:58:19am

The trend I have noticed is to dig up a murder case where a black person killed someone (preferable white, although killing another black teen will work as well) and then scream about how the MSM is not paying attention to this murder…therefore paying attention to the murder of Trayvon is somehow racist. My brother posted this sort of thing on the FB page, and I have also seen the murder of a white child by a black gang member in Brunswick Georgia passed around a lot. (in all of the incidents I have seen, the accused criminals were promptly arrested and have no chance of getting a not guilty verdict)

This also works for when a GLBT person is killed. If you watch the Larmie Project on HBO, you see where a woman married to a cop (played by Laura Linney) complains how an officer was killed in an accident the week before and only got a mention in the paper. Therefore, it is unfair that all this attention goes on Matthew Sheppard.

3 spiderbucket  Tue, Jul 23, 2013 9:53:07am

I have to disagree. I DO blame rap culture for how a lot of the youth act these days. They cannot speak proper English, they can’t dress themselves, they know nothing of how to go about getting a job. There either are no parents on the scene or they suck at parenting. When you let a kid that’s 10 years old listen to music that teaches them that ‘life aint nothin’ but bitches and money’ - how can you possibly think that they are going to grow up and be a responsible person ?

4 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Tue, Jul 23, 2013 9:56:11am

re: #3 spiderbucket

Okay, so explain how the generation of white kids that grew up on rock and roll that was all about drug use, objectification of women, and generally being assholes fits into this scenario of yours.

5 geoffm33  Tue, Jul 23, 2013 10:08:53am

re: #3 spiderbucket

I have to disagree. I DO blame rap culture for how a lot of the youth act these days. They cannot speak proper English, they can’t dress themselves, they know nothing of how to go about getting a job. There either are no parents on the scene or they suck at parenting. When you let a kid that’s 10 years old listen to music that teaches them that ‘life aint nothin’ but bitches and money’ - how can you possibly think that they are going to grow up and be a responsible person ?

I grew up listening to NWA, Ice-T, Ghetto Boys. I turned out just fine.

I am also white, grew up in an affluent town with a dog, a backyard and two parents. Meaning: I had the opportunity and environment to succeed.

So let’s take the rap music/culture out of the equation and see what else may be holding these kids back? Poverty, divorce, inequality in educational spending in their community, etc.

6 Lidane  Tue, Jul 23, 2013 10:12:51am

re: #3 spiderbucket

That’s funny. I’m a suburban Latina girl that was exposed to rap and hip-hop growing up alongside all the other music I listen to now. I’ve got an MBA, a job, and can keep a roof over my head and pay my bills.

I will also be the first person to tell you that both Straight Outta Compton and Fear of a Black Planet are required for your music collection. They’re essential albums. Period.

7 geoffm33  Tue, Jul 23, 2013 10:13:46am

re: #6 Lidane

I will also be the first person to tell you that both Straight Outta Compton and Fear of a Black Planet are required for your music collection. They’re essential albums. Period.

This.

8 Carlos Diggler  Tue, Jul 23, 2013 10:43:25am

re: #3 spiderbucket

I have to disagree. I DO blame rap culture for how a lot of the youth act these days. They cannot speak proper English, they can’t dress themselves, they know nothing of how to go about getting a job. There either are no parents on the scene or they suck at parenting. When you let a kid that’s 10 years old listen to music that teaches them that ‘life aint nothin’ but bitches and money’ - how can you possibly think that they are going to grow up and be a responsible person ?

I listened to rock from the 70’s, hair bands from the 80’s, punk, and the most satanic of metal. I’ve had a steady job since I was 15 and own a business.

But I quit listening to 80’s hair bands, I got that going for me.

You’re the target market for the ‘everything else to blame for racism except for racism.’ Thanks for making my point.

9 Carlos Diggler  Tue, Jul 23, 2013 10:44:40am

re: #6 Lidane

I will also be the first person to tell you that both Straight Outta Compton and Fear of a Black Planet are required for your music collection. They’re essential albums. Period.

Word.

10 spiderbucket  Tue, Jul 23, 2013 2:23:41pm

When I was in college, I had both of those albums - still do. And they are great.

But do you think it’s OK to have a 10 year old kid listening to songs that glorify violence and demean women ? And I am not talking about PE, since they actually had something intelligent to say. And Chuck D has called out all of this nonsense and even suggested hanging drug dealers from the lampposts. Even Ice Cube said in one of his songs that the drug dealers were as bad as the police ‘cause they kill us.’ So, how did we go from that to what we have now ?

Obviously, not everyone exposed to rap grows up screwed up. But the culture is not positive in any way as far as coming up. These guys aren’t exactly Curtis Mayfield.

Of course, there is racism and poverty, but you cannot tell a whole group of people that they are just screwed and have no hope and that the world hates them and expect great results. None of the 70’s music from Funk to Metal did that.

11 Carlos Diggler  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 8:10:47am

Whitesplaining rap music

12 spiderbucket  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:35:21pm

“Whitesplaining” - oh, so I cannot even talk about music without some racial comment from you ? On this thread you have said nothing to make anyone see your point, whatever it is.

13 spiderbucket  Wed, Jul 24, 2013 1:36:06pm

re: #5 geoffm33

Apparently, you cannot comment on rap music if you are white.


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