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1 freetoken  Wed, Jul 31, 2013 3:58:24pm

But wait… I thought this special session, the third, was supposed to be about transportation funding.

2 EPR-radar  Wed, Jul 31, 2013 4:41:14pm

FFS. What’s next? Ten months of mandatory counseling sessions?

3 Lidane  Wed, Jul 31, 2013 4:45:31pm

Lucio has always been a massive tool. I’m not surprised he’s pulling this shit.

4 SidewaysQuark  Wed, Jul 31, 2013 4:57:42pm

As if the people passing this pig-headed bill care anything about the welfare of these babies once they’re “up for adoption”….

5 elizajane  Wed, Jul 31, 2013 5:19:06pm

Wish I had bookmarked this but the other day I saw a study that had been done on women who had been denied abortions. Some years later, at least 85% were with the child (ie., adoption was not a preferred option because, duh, it’s not an easy and happy thing) and maybe 30% more had slipped into poverty — that is, 30% more than the ones who’d already been living below the poverty line before their unplanned pregnancy. Do you think those statistics will be included in this bogus course?

OK, let me just vent about these pointless government-mandated courses about adoption. I was supposed to take one from the other end when I adopted my third child — a course about all the dangers and things that can go wrong with adopted kids and how you need to prepare yourself for that. You watch a couple of videos and answer some multiple-choice questions and are supposed to be “educated” in making your decision. It’s totally bogus. Either you want to know these things, or you just don’t want to know them. They are not rocket science.

God, these people think women are stupid.

(By the way, I argued my way out of the full course by pointing out that I’d already adopted two children. Can they make an escape clause here for women who have already had another abortion?)

6 The Ghost of a Flea  Wed, Jul 31, 2013 6:12:43pm

There were going to make ladies fight a bear…but that might damage the baby incubator.

7 kirkspencer  Wed, Jul 31, 2013 7:11:08pm

Either make it so we can make random people with good kidneys be dialysis buddies or get out of the ladies’ vaginas.

8 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 31, 2013 7:46:05pm

Next it will be proposed that women not get an abortion before they get an abortion. This is really getting lame. This is a legal procedure. Sorry assholes but its constitutionality and legality has been affirmed. If you don’t like that, tough fucking shit. Stop harassing women.

9 Lancelot Link  Wed, Jul 31, 2013 8:54:57pm

There’ll probably be a three-month waiting list to take the class.

10 piratedan  Thu, Aug 1, 2013 12:59:24am

if only they could make legislators take a class on how government really works, you know civics, taxes, government services…hell, I’d settle for them having to watch America Rock, might answer some questions.

11 Joanne  Thu, Aug 1, 2013 9:17:08am

re: #6 The Ghost of a Flea

There were going to make ladies fight a bear…but that might damage the baby incubator.

That is all we are to these assholes…nothing but vessels; machines for kicking out offspring.

This is disgusting.

12 Skip Intro  Thu, Aug 1, 2013 9:55:29am

All of these laws are being passed with the sole intention of getting one of them before the Supreme Court, where they believe they have to votes to overturn Roe v. Wade.

13 Archangelus  Thu, Aug 1, 2013 10:24:43am

re: #5 elizajane

Wish I had bookmarked this but the other day I saw a study that had been done on women who had been denied abortions.

Think you might be referring to this article:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/16/magazine/study-women-denied-abortions.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

14 lawhawk  Thu, Aug 1, 2013 11:19:13am

re: #5 elizajane

Here’s the report linking lack of access to abortions and poverty.

Women who attempted to get abortions but were denied are three times as likely to fall into poverty than those whose efforts were not blocked, a recent study conducted by researchers at University of California San Francisco found.

UCSF’s Bixby Center on Global Reproductive Health examined 3,000 interviews conducted with over 1,000 women from across the United States who had either received abortions or were turned away because their pregnancies had already passed the clinic’s gestational limit. The study aimed to determine the effects carrying an unwanted pregnancy to term had on women’s mental, physical and socio-economic health.

Researchers found that a year after seeking an abortion, more than three-quarters of the women turned away were on public assistance and 67 percent were below the poverty line. Fewer than half of those turned away held a full-time job.

Figures dropped significantly for the women who received abortions.

“When a woman is denied the abortion she wants, she is statistically more likely to wind up unemployed, on public assistance, and below the poverty line,” lead researcher Dr. Diana Greene Foster explained to io9. “Another conclusion we could draw is that denying women abortions places more burden on the state because of these new mothers’ increased reliance on public assistance programs.”

Research also revealed that one of the main reasons women sought abortions in the first place was monetary: 45 percent were on some form of public assistance and two-thirds had incomes below the federal poverty line.

42% of women seeking abortions have incomes below the 100% poverty line ($10,830). Another 27% have incomes between the 100% and 199% of the poverty line (roughly $21,660).

And some of these same women are seeking abortions because their use of birth control failed in some fashion:

Fifty-four percent of women who have abortions had used a contraceptive method (usually the condom or the pill) during the month they became pregnant. Among those women, 76% of pill users and 49% of condom users report having used their method inconsistently, while 13% of pill users and 14% of condom users report correct use

.That would seem to indicate that more and better training/instructions/guidelines on birth control would help reduce the unwanted pregnancies that lead some of these women to then seek abortions, but the GOP is openly hostile to any such sex-ed all while assaulting the access to abortions.

15 lawhawk  Thu, Aug 1, 2013 11:22:59am

re: #1 freetoken

But wait… I thought this special session, the third, was supposed to be about transportation funding.

And you thought that motor vehicles had nothing to do with reproductive rights? These folks are taking their cues from Paradise by the Dashboard Light. Except instead of leaving the choice up to the woman, they’re going with government so small that it fits in their lady bits.


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