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1 EPR-radar  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 12:05:47pm

IMO, Brooks is engaging in significant historical revisionism. Reagan et al. were no friends of the New Deal or the welfare state. They did as much damage to both as was possible in their time in office.

And this: “Neocons opposed government programs that undermined personal responsibility and community cohesion, but they supported those programs that reinforced them or which had no effect.” is almost certainly total BS. Anything the conservatives wanted to oppose they would, by inventing reasons it ‘undermined personal responsibility and community cohesion’.

One has to go back at least as far as Eisenhower to find a republican that accepted the welfare state:

Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid.

What Eisenhower is ridiculing here is the present day GOP platform, of course.

2 kerFuFFler  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 12:47:54pm

Fantastic Eisenhower quote! Thanks!

3 sagehen  Fri, Aug 2, 2013 3:37:00pm

For the real lefties, here’s another fabulous Eisenhower quote (from his 1953 cross of iron speech):

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.

This world in arms in not spending money alone.

It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.

The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities.

It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population.

It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals.

It is some 50 miles of concrete highway.

We pay for a single fighter with a half million bushels of wheat.

We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people.

This, I repeat, is the best way of life to be found on the road the world has been taking.

This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron.

4 ProTARDISLiberal  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:36:56am

re: #3 sagehen

I would vote for Zombie Eisenhower.

5 funky chicken  Sun, Aug 4, 2013 9:14:41pm

Why would one wish to “politely ignore” Eisenhower’s interstate highway system?

The Interstate System has been called the Greatest Public Works Project in History. From the day President Dwight D. Eisenhower signed the Federal-Aid Highway Act of 1956, the Interstate System has been a part of our culture—as construction projects, as transportation in our daily lives, and as an integral part of the American way of life. Every citizen has been touched by it, if not directly as motorists, then indirectly because every item we buy has been on the Interstate System at some point. President Eisenhower considered it one of the most important achievements of his two terms in office, and historians agree.

6 Vicious Babushka  Mon, Aug 5, 2013 6:52:37am

Wingnuts love this Derp:

7 palomino  Mon, Aug 5, 2013 10:00:27am

re: #6 Vicious Babushka

Wingnuts love this Derp:

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How do cons, young or otherwise, think all those things were paid for before fed income tax? It wasn’t because citizens “kept everything they owned.” Of course there were taxes, just other kinds; otherwise, schools, roads, etc. wouldn’t have been paid for. The sources of revenue were just different.

We didn’t become the world’s preeminent power, both economically and militarily, without huge revenue streams. We didn’t pay for WWII with Uncle Sam bonds alone. Our trillion dollar a year military wouldn’t exist without federal taxes, etc etc.

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