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1 ReamWorks SKG  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 6:15:56am

This school district, apparently, has a “moratorium” on school arrests. An attempt to reduce the “school-to-prison pipeline”

“Moratorium on school-related arrests”

The Council continues to work with the Pinellas County School Board in an effort to stop school-related arrests for disorderly conduct and disruption of school environment.

The Council’s efforts to stop these arrests support our three-year strategic plan as a way to prevent youth from entering the juvenile justice system. The Council began its effort in January 2006. Recently, on June 13 and again on July 13, 2006, the School Board held workshops to address the issue of discipline and school-related arrests. On July 11, Superintendent Wilcox sent me this message:

“We are continuing to work on the arrest data … while we have not gotten to the point I or any of the team would like … I believe we are and we will make progress reducing and hopefully eliminating arrests on our campuses for any reason. Creating more civil classroom and school environments will be a major focus of our back to school work.”

On July 13 Carol Cook, Chair, of the Pinellas County School Board sent this email:

“It is my opinion that the Board is not ready to call for a moratorium on the specific school-related charges arrests. We understand that you are addressing the childhood misbehaviors not arrests for things such as drugs and other violent behaviors, however as we discussed at the workshop today I believe we have begun the discussion, the superintendent is looking for alternatives and we are moving toward changing some of the practices of both the school officials and law enforcement.”

I believe the school board is beginning to move to reduce, if not eliminate, school-related arrests for childhood misbehaviors. This is a nation wide problem and when the school board finds alternatives that maintain discipline without arrest, it may well set a national precedent. Let this Council continue to help them stay on track.”

URL here:
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2 aagcobb  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:00:06am

re: #1 ReamWorks SKG

Why can’t people just use common sense? Don’t arrest kids for having butter knives, do arrest kids engaged in a brutal assault. Jeez, how hard is it?

3 mechanic  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:40:50am

If the NRA has it’s way they’d arm all the kids and let God sort them out.
“Can’t get on the bus without a gun, Kid”. “You stoopid or sumthin?”

4 Raw Satanic Sewage Recipes  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 12:52:53pm

Those boys need to be harshly disciplined. This kind of abuse has been going on for as long as I can remember. And it’s not just boys. I remember when I was in the 1st grade, some fifth grade cheerleaders beating the shit out of another girl near the back of our bus at least two times a month.
As for the bus driver, I don’t think even I would have intervened physically because I would worry about the kids claiming I “hurt them” then getting sued.

5 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 5:28:14pm

re: #2 aagcobb

Why can’t people just use common sense? Don’t arrest kids for having butter knives, do arrest kids engaged in a brutal assault. Jeez, how hard is it?

Because lawyers and pressure groups, is why. The weakness of a policy that allows for judgement calls is that sooner or later a judgement call is going to be made that can be seriously called into question later. And then you don’t have a policy defense, which means you’re looking at a lawsuit likely to survive summary judgement. And then you are in serious trouble.

6 majii  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:31:16pm

Many of those who want to prosecute this bus driver have probably not worked in schools that teenagers attend. When some of these teens get riled up, it’s almost impossible to stop a fight. During my 33 years of teaching high school, I saw some terrible fights, and in some cases, the administration had to call the police to stop them. It’s not as easy as some people think to intervene in fights between students. Why these kids attacked the other kid, I don’t know, but I do know they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Furthermore, I see their ganging up on one kid to be a very cowardly act. I have one piece of advice for those who want the bus driver to be prosecuted for not stopping the fight—-take his job for a full year. I feel the same way about these folks as I feel about those who heap criticism upon public school teachers but wouldn’t choose to teach for any reason.

7 aagcobb  Sun, Aug 4, 2013 7:27:08am

re: #5 Dark_Falcon

Because lawyers and pressure groups, is why. The weakness of a policy that allows for judgement calls is that sooner or later a judgement call is going to be made that can be seriously called into question later. And then you don’t have a policy defense, which means you’re looking at a lawsuit likely to survive summary judgement. And then you are in serious trouble.

Well there are immunity defenses to protect government employees from all but the worst judgment, and school districts buy liability insurance. Zero tolerance and complete tolerance policies tend to bring absurd, unjust results.

8 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Aug 4, 2013 6:50:27pm

re: #7 aagcobb

Well there are immunity defenses to protect government employees from all but the worst judgment, and school districts buy liability insurance. Zero tolerance and complete tolerance policies tend to bring absurd, unjust results.

School bus drivers are quite often not government employees, the buses often being operated by private companies. Moreover, while districts do have liability insurance, it is quite often woeful to be the person whose action triggered a lawsuit, even if the suit is ultimately won. Administrators don’t like those who are seen as causing trouble and often deny promotion to such people or give them punitive transfers.


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