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1 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 7:32:39am

We not only need contracting reform, we need to go back to the Military providing it’s own services as much as possible. No more civilian cooks or contractors building things that the Engineers could be building. Re-open and totally modernize the Springfield and Rock Island armories. Purchase the Lima Tank Works and have Ordinance run it.

It’s time to admit that the whole “contractor” experiment has been an expensive fiasco that only put lots of $$$ into corrupt pockets.

2 Randall Gross  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 7:35:01am

linkage problem.

3 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:33:53am

re: #2 Randall Gross

linkage problem.

Now fixed. Thank you.

4 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 8:38:03am

re: #1 William Barnett-Lewis

We not only need contracting reform, we need to go back to the Military providing it’s own services as much as possible. No more civilian cooks or contractors building things that the Engineers could be building. Re-open and totally modernize the Springfield and Rock Island armories. Purchase the Lima Tank Works and have Ordinance run it.

It’s time to admit that the whole “contractor” experiment has been an expensive fiasco that only put lots of $$$ into corrupt pockets.

Actually, having private firms build firearms for DoD has worked very well and has actually lead to a great deal of innovation and capability increases. So that should stay private, because it isn’t problematic and in fact helps work against the rigidity of military procurement.

On engineers, you’ve got point but not on cooks. Soldiers and Marines are frankly paid more than a cook is worth these days, so contracting that job out saves on personnel costs.

5 William Barnett-Lewis  Sat, Aug 3, 2013 9:45:02am

re: #4 Dark_Falcon

Actually, having private firms build firearms for DoD has worked very well and has actually lead to a great deal of innovation and capability increases. So that should stay private, because it isn’t problematic and in fact helps work against the rigidity of military procurement.

On engineers, you’ve got point but not on cooks. Soldiers and Marines are frankly paid more than a cook is worth these days, so contracting that job out saves on personnel costs.

For small arms, I can see the point but not for anything larger than .50 cal.

As to food, I’ve been to both types of chowhall during my time in. The army run ones were always better. Given the importance of food to the maintenance of moral, I’d argue instead that that cooks are too important not to pay properly - not that a soldier’s wages are anywhere near what they should be.

The savings can be then rolled into giving them all raises so that an E5 with a wife and 2 children can survive without SNAP and other welfare.


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