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1 steve_davis  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 5:36:24am

Yeah, unfortunately history tells us that when Republicans truly are completely bankrupt, they can maintain themselves for some little while. Look at the carpetbaggers and Radical Republican era of the 1860’s and 1870’s, the Coolidge/Hoover years……

2 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 5:48:00am

I thought he was going to give the Armed Forces permission to use the place as an artillery and bombing range.

Oh, damn! Did I say that out loud? It was a joke, Rand. A joke!

3 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 11:35:22am


Transcript:

GLENN BECK: Do you think they’re going to ‑‑ I mean, to add fuel to the fire, do you think they’re going to ‑‑ there’s going to be a real movement to bail out Detroit?

RAND PAUL: I think there may. And, you know, I’ve been talking with my staff about having a Republican alternative to it because I think there is a way in an economically depressed zone to have some tax forbearance, reduce some taxes, encourage businesses, encourage people to come in and take abandoned property.

The other thing I suggested is the money we’re sending to Egypt for tanks and planes, we could put it into infrastructure. Doesn’t have to go just to Detroit but it ‑‑ across America, it would go into repairing infrastructure. And so I think there are ways that we could do it in a Republican fashion, but I will not be for borrowing any money, you know, from China to try to bail out Detroit, particularly if they continue the same policies. Really bankruptcy is an opportunity to try to get rid of bad contracts, start out afresh and try to maybe pay your workers, have fewer workers but pay them closer to what the market pays them in the private sector….You have to bring in new politics too. Maybe the people that have been voting for Democrats for 50 years in Detroit who ran the great, once great city into the ground. Maybe the Republican Party will have a resurgence in Detroit. And we can say look, we have the ability and the ideas to bring about a recovery for Detroit, but that may be wishful thinking.

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4 majii  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 2:02:53pm

re: #3 Vicious Babushka

Americans should be enraged that this ass is talking about investing in American infrastructure after he helped to filibuster the THUD bill just last week! His partisanship is on full display because he pretends like he’s all for infrastructure spending, if he can stop U.S. military aid to Egypt. Not likely. If there were such a bill, and even if he wrote it, he’d most likely vote against it and justify that vote as being due to his supposed “conservative and libertarian” belief that the only thing the federal government should fund is defense. Rand Paul is trying to stand out and make himself look good as he prepares for a 2016 run for the presidency. If he thinks he can burnish his foreign policy creds by defunding U.S. aid to Egypt, he doesn’t understand anything about international relations. The fact that we send aid to Egypt goes way beyond whether Morsi’s ousting was a coup or not. Instead of running his mouth so much, Rand Paul needs to be studying the history of the Middle East and specifically, the Camp David Peace Accords. He won’t do this, because he, like Sarah Palin and other republicans, believes that the solution to very complex issues is easy. That he thinks like this means he doesn’t know shit about foreign relations and international policy.

5 I Earned My Sodomy Merit Badge!  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 2:23:49pm

Let me guess Rand, pray to evangelical Jesus, get rid of planned parenthood, give more financial subsidies to rich people.

World Saved!1!1!!111

6 Skip Intro  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 2:49:01pm

Meanwhile, in the real world, the federal deficit is falling because of - wait for it - increased tax revenues.

Damn near every single thing Paul and the Teabaggers believe is wrong, but that never even slows them down.

7 Timothy Watson  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 3:06:16pm
“I think there is a way, in an economically depressed zone, to have some tax forbearance, reduce some taxes, encourage people to come in and take abandoned property,” he said. “I will not be for borrowing any money from China to try to bail out Detroit, particularly if they continue the same policies.”

Uh, so he wants the federal government to seize property and then redistribute it to anyone that wants it? Isn’t that Marxism? Where in the enumerated powers section does Congress have that authority? And didn’t the GOP raise holy hell about the Kelo decision years ago?

8 BongCrodny  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:11:48pm

So if you’re selling abandoned properties for $1, does that include the land they’re on?

I suspect this bit of Paulian drivel — par for the course — hasn’t been completely thought out.

9 Stephen T.  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:17:15pm

re: #8 BongCrodny

So if you’re selling abandoned properties for $1, does that include the land they’re on?

I suspect this bit of Paulian drivel — par for the course — hasn’t been completely thought out.

When it comes to those $1.00 properties in Detroit, yes it does include the land. However, the buildings are old and made with materials that are an environmental hazard to just knock down. You’d have to invest a great deal into having the building demolished first. Second, the property is still taxed by the city at the assessed value of the property, not the price you pay for it. You might get the place for a dollar, but you’re going to be paying about $3000 every quarter to keep it. You are also, as owner, now liable for any accidents that happen there, a squatter dies when he falls through the floor? That’s on you.

It is Paulian drivel, and not very well thought out drivel at that.

10 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Aug 7, 2013 7:35:05pm

re: #8 BongCrodny

So if you’re selling abandoned properties for $1, does that include the land they’re on?

I suspect this bit of Paulian drivel — par for the course — hasn’t been completely thought out.

Yes, and they have been giving away properties for $1 for 30 years. There are few takers, because homesteading is expensive, it costs over $60,000 just to restore one house. The abandoned homes are rarely worth restoring, they have to be demolished and all the debris hauled away.

Then, even if you do get the house rebuilt, what about all the rest of the destroyed houses on the block?

There was an attempt to reclaim parcels of land for urban farming. That did not work out well, because decades of industrial seepage made the ground unfit for growing anything. Some community organizations did have some moderate success planting on platform beds in soil that had to be brought in from up North, or Canada.


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