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1 Charles Johnson  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 11:25:09am

What bullshit. “It suggests a smirking contempt?” No, it suggests that the President respects the intelligence of his audience and knows they can understand the difference.

Another piece of crap article, posted sloppily.

2 recurvata  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 1:07:26pm

I won’t try to read “smirking contempt” into Obama’s remarks on a late night talk show. That’s snark, not analysis, whether it’s true or not. Who knows what was going in Obama’s head? Although Charles’ comment illustrates a pet peeve of mine about many LGF posters, and in this case commenter. Your post titlecomment should refer to something actually mentioned somewhere in the text you post, whether the quote or your comment on it. It’s fine to get more depthcontext by clicking the link, but too many postscomments are unintelligible otherwise.

That said, what about Heywood’s post is “bullshit”? In what reasonable sense are Americans not being spyed on by their own government? The Obama bashing is unfair only in that it singles him out. Pretty much every president would agree they should have this power (maybe not Carter, don’t know). Of course it’s necessary, of course it won’t be misused, of course you can understand why it must be kept from you. That’s pretty much the nature of power. It’s not the nature of a free and democratic nation, though. It’s why we need real restraints on the natural growth of power, especially power in secret. This should be basic US civics, not “bullshit”.

3 subterraneanhomesickalien  Sat, Aug 10, 2013 10:00:10pm

Then vote third party on 2016 or just stay home on principle, and watch every incremental progressive change that has been fought tooth and nail for over the last five years have a sledge hammer taken to it in the interest of the economic powers that be on Wall Street, just because the NSA had the temerity to employ a program which was used to track phone calls of terrorist suspects, so innocent Americans may not have to suffer being blown to bits by a pipe bomb or flown into the side of a skyscraper after their airplane had been high jacked.

But there really is no difference between the two party’s is there.

Well if you actually believe that than you deserve to be a serf. And if you think that Barack Obama and Adolf Hilter let alone Barack Obama and Dick Cheney are on morally equivalent footing then go fuck yourself.


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