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1 brennant  Fri, Aug 23, 2013 10:52:14am
“It’s amazing to me how people who are pouring time and money and energy into trying to repeal the Affordable Care Act sure haven’t put that kind of energy into trying to improve the health of Kentuckians,”

Ouch

2 EPR-radar  Fri, Aug 23, 2013 12:48:00pm

Bravo. Dem elected officials in reddish parts of the US know that they need to get out there and fight.

They can’t just coast as some of the blue state Dems occasionally do (e.g., Coakley in MA).

3 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Aug 23, 2013 12:53:37pm

I usually avoid all the Kentucky “non-partisan” events (even when free food is involved) because hordes of politicians attend.
This is one that I’m sorry to have missed. Beshear was positively epic!

4 Bulworth  Fri, Aug 23, 2013 1:30:32pm

Wait, this isn’t how it’s supposed to go. The GOPteabag official is supposed to be able to rail against Obamacare and talk about his or her many, many votes to repeal Obamacare without ever having to talk about what repealing the pre-existing condition limit and healthcare expansion would have on many people, and everyone everywhere is supposed to cheer. ///

5 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Aug 23, 2013 1:36:48pm

re: #4 Bulworth

Wait, this isn’t how it’s supposed to go. The GOPteabag official is supposed to be able to rail against Obamacare and talk about his or her many, many votes to repeal Obamacare without ever having to talk about what repealing the pre-existing condition limit and healthcare expansion would have on many people, and everyone everywhere is supposed to cheer. ///

heh, indeed!

6 Bulworth  Fri, Aug 23, 2013 1:52:05pm

Especially not in Red states where Democratic folks are supposed to be shaking in their boots at any mention of PBO, let alone any favorable comments about Obamacare.

7 aagcobb  Fri, Aug 23, 2013 2:12:47pm

Kentucky politics can be weird since we still have conservative rural democrats who have already decamped to the GOP in most other states. So, for example, Beshear supported tax credits for the “Ark Park.” But he knows that opening the spigot of federal money that’s going to flow in to pay for Obamacare will be an unqualified good for the state.

8 EPR-radar  Fri, Aug 23, 2013 2:14:53pm

re: #7 aagcobb

Kentucky politics can be weird since we still have conservative rural democrats who have already decamped to the GOP in most other states. So, for example, Beshear supported tax credits for the “Ark Park.” But he knows that opening the spigot of federal money that’s going to flow in to pay for Obamacare will be an unqualified good for the state.

That is very unusual. Is it known why these conservatives are sticking with the Dems in Kentucky?

9 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Aug 23, 2013 2:19:05pm

re: #8 EPR-radar

That is very unusual. Is it known why these conservatives are sticking with the Dems in Kentucky?

We’re a really strange state.
Our General Assembly is pretty much 50/50 D/R.
We usually elect Dem governors (our last R governor was a complete disaster and was lucky not to be kicked out of office).
It’s hard figuring out why we’re so schizophrenic. I’ve been trying to figure it out for decades, with no luck.

10 aagcobb  Fri, Aug 23, 2013 2:44:47pm

re: #8 EPR-radar

That is very unusual. Is it known why these conservatives are sticking with the Dems in Kentucky?

I have a theory. Unlike deep Southern states, Kentucky had a Republican Party centered in Appalachia where there was strong loyalty to the Union during the War. So when the 1960’s came around, the Kentucky GOP wasn’t an empty vessel for segregationists to take over; it was primarily concerned with pork-barrel politics. Kentucky also has a small African-American population because it didn’t have big plantations worked by slave labor but small family farms growing tobacco, so racial politics was never as intense here as further south, except for some trouble in Louisville in the seventies when school busing for desegregation started. Thus the Kentucky Democratic Party remained heavily white and conservative and rural democrats didn’t feel pressure to move to the GOP. Kentucky also still has a relatively strong union presence in the private sector, so Kentucky Democrats could be both socially conservative and pro-labor.

11 majii  Fri, Aug 23, 2013 3:00:23pm

Rand Paul and McConnell are some of the best liars on the planet because they know they take every opportunity to bash President Obama, Obamacare, progressives/democrats, etc. anywhere, at any time while having no solution to any of the problems we are facing. What they can’t stand is when some democrat tells them to their faces what big liars they are and how they do nothing to help their constituents. I remember when President Obama trashed Ryan’s budget right in front of him. Not once did Ryan say that the president was wrong. All he could talk about was how “hurt” his little feelings were. I want more democrats to go right for these liars’ jugulars, rip their political throats out, and walk over the remains. Republicans have been so used to lying and having no democrat directly confront them about their lies that it has become a way of doing business in the GOP. For a party whose members swear that they’re brave, strong, and willing to “make the tough decisions,” they’re quick to wimp out when confronted with their malfeasance. No republican politician should ever again talk about “takers” and how “bad” they are for the country because they’re the main ones getting paid handsomely and receiving great benefits for delivering nothing to anyone except the wealthy and corporate CEOs. They’re the real welfare kings and queens in this country.

12 Backwoods_Sleuth  Fri, Aug 23, 2013 3:12:47pm

re: #10 aagcobb

Also, many African-Americans, at least here in Appalachia KY, were not slaves during the Civil War times. In my county, the same families are still here.

13 Mich-again  Fri, Aug 23, 2013 11:28:08pm

Poor Scott Farkas ran home crying with a bloody nose..


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