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1 Justanotherhuman  Thu, Sep 5, 2013 11:23:54am

Good grief, already.

And it’s not enough that Russian orphanages are overfull anyway.

Who would have thought such conservative thought would have popped up in Russia? Well, IIRC, back in the day, I was told Cuba did not allow gays and lesbians to join their Venceremos brigades; they would have to lie and watch their step to get in. Communism was quite conservative in its social mores.

2 EPR-radar  Thu, Sep 5, 2013 11:31:21am

re: #1 Justanotherhuman

Good grief, already.

And it’s not enough that Russian orphanages are overfull anyway.

Who would have thought such conservative thought would have popped up in Russia? Well, IIRC, back in the day, I was told Cuba did not allow gays and lesbians to join their Venceremos brigades; they would have to lie and watch their step to get in. Communism was quite conservative in its social mores.

I don’t think there has been an authoritarian/totalitarian regime since revolutionary France that really went against traditional social mores. Co-opting social conservatism in ways that support the regime is such an effective tool that just about every authoritarian regime will use it, both on the left and on the right.

3 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, Sep 5, 2013 12:19:27pm

And Bryan Fisher applauds.

4 aagcobb  Thu, Sep 5, 2013 1:11:07pm

If this passes, how will the IOC spin it? Putin is clearly using LGBT people as the new Jews. Pogrom anyone?

5 Paul Canning  Thu, Sep 5, 2013 1:13:44pm

Kragar, I posted this as well but with an update not being carried in Western reports. A Kremlin aligned source is dismissing the bill as crazy. I also had a press release from Russian gay group saying it won’t pass as it goes too far.

6 EPR-radar  Thu, Sep 5, 2013 1:17:34pm

re: #5 Paul Canning

Kragar, I posted this as well but with an update not being carried in Western reports. A Kremlin aligned source is dismissing the bill as crazy. I also had a press release from Russian gay group saying it won’t pass as it goes too far.

That’s how scapegoating works. Various possibilities are put forth, some of which are too extreme for the politics of the moment.

Over time, a new normal is established, and what was formerly viewed as extreme becomes possible.

Rinse, lather, repeat.


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