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1 freetoken  Sat, Sep 21, 2013 10:06:42pm

This one scores a 7 on my WTF? meter: ☠ ☠ ☠ ☠ ☠ ☠ ☠

2 freetoken  Sat, Sep 21, 2013 10:07:26pm

Adds new meaning to the old phrase, “Make love, not war.”

3 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Sep 22, 2013 5:17:13am

re: #2 freetoken

Adds new meaning to the old phrase, “Make love, not war.”

But it’s not love; The whole concept of ‘Jihad al-nikah’ has three aims:

The first aim is to relieve the sexual tensions of the fighting men. This is the more ‘ordinary’ purpose and many armies (including those of the United States in earlier times) have created or indulged systems of providing women to the troops for such purposes.

The second aim is a darker one and that is to show the woman’s fanatical commitment to jihad. Even if she cannot fight, she’ll still “supply the men with comfort” and if she becomes pregnant then she will willingly assume the task of raising a future jihadi.

This brings to the third aim, and it is as dark as the Nazi obsession with fertility. Like Hitler and Himmler, the jihadis expect to wage more wars, so they want women who are zealots in their cause to have more children. It’s the production of children in the same way an industrial power might produce tanks.

4 CuriousLurker  Sun, Sep 22, 2013 7:22:40am

re: #1 freetoken

re: #3 Dark_Falcon

I’ve reading these stories about “jihad al-nikah” for a while now and the whole concept sets off my bullshit meter is a major way.

It sounds like something straight out of urban legend, something that takes a grain of truth and twists & magnifies it all out of proportion to scare/warn people about something. It’s reminiscent of Egypt’s supposed “farewell intercourse” necrophilia law that was making the rounds last year, which was widely reported by the Arab media and then latched onto by by every news outlet form the Daily Mail, to the Huffington Post, and every right-wing & Islamophobic blog in between Turned out it was nothing more than pre-election propaganda initiated to discredit the MB Islamists.

I don’t like the extremists any more than the next person, and it’s their very extremism that causes people to be willing to believe these types of stories, but this is wayyyy out there even for them. We’re in Poe’s law territory here.

In the early days of Islam “temporary marriage” was permissible under certain circumstances, but it was banned during the caliphate of Umar and hasn’t been permissible for Sunnis ever since. It never stopped being permissible as far as the Shia are concerned, but there are rules that go along with it regarding dowry, minimum length of the marriage contract, and the required iddah (waiting period) after the marriage is dissolved (due to the legal importance of paternity). And that’s the short list of rules.

No Sunni—let alone a hardcore Islamist type—would ever sanction “sexual jihad”, it’s just absurd.

Keep in mind that we’re talking about the Middle East here. You know, the same Middle East where many countries have a huge problem with the cultural (and culturally accepted) practice of honor killing, and where (in some places) if a girl is raped she’s thrown in jail, and/or given lashes for fornication, and/or forced to marry her attacker.

We’re supposed to believe that all of this has suddenly been abandoned and these girls’ families are now totally okay with them waltzing off unaccompanied to a foreign, war-torn country and having sex with 20-100 strange men per day, resulting in pregnancies where it would be impossible to establish paternity? Seriously?

You guys need to keep your skeptic’s hats firmly in place on this one and not let your distaste for jihadists cloud your judgement.

I strongly suspect that either the girls in question or their families are trying to cover up for something else, or the story is pure propaganda being churned out by the Assad regime. Hell, as evil as the Assad regime is, it wouldn’t surprise me one bit if these girls were in Syria for some other reason and government troops captured & gang raped them, and then, instead of simply killing them, decided to let them live and use them as propaganda tools. Far fetched? Maybe, but no more so than the notion of “sexual jihad”.

5 Joanne  Sun, Sep 22, 2013 8:32:58am

I have to agree with CL. With their attitudes about sex and honor killing over even suspected sex, this just doesn’t ring true.

A woman has hot jihadi sex, resulting in a child. Who’s claiming and raising the child? What’s the girl’s father have to say? Who’s going to marry a “100 guys in a day” Muslim woman? How is she not untouchable…even by her own family?

6 ProTARDISLiberal  Sun, Sep 22, 2013 9:09:24am

re: #5 Joanne

Yeah, let’s wait for more details, and/or confirmation from the Tunisian Government.

I am slightly skeptical.

7 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Sep 22, 2013 5:11:08pm

re: #4 CuriousLurker

Understood, and I trust your judgement on this one. I’ll hold off on any further analysis of this idea until it can be determined if it is real.


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