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1 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:29:02am

Pretty sure this is gonna disappear into the bowels of a holiday weekend. ;)

2 Flounder  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:12:45am

and this is only a problem with the Tea Party?

3 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 5:44:11am

re: #2 Flounder

and this is only a problem with the Tea Party?

No, it’s a general problem. The Tea Party is just the most visible expression of it, I think.

4 Sionainn  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:39:42am

I think you’re on to something. Not long ago, I read the biography of John Adams. It was amazing to me the amount of material that he read and the sheer volume of writings he produced. That sure doesn’t happen today with the average American…maybe some reading, but even less writing out thoughts and ideas and suggestions and theories.

5 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 7:51:09am

re: #4 Sionainn

John Adams is seriously one of my favorite Presidents (though more as a person than President).

If you think he’s impressive, read a biography or two of Teddy Roosevelt (one of my favorite Presidents, both as person and office!).

That sure doesn’t happen today with the average American…maybe some reading, but even less writing out thoughts and ideas and suggestions and theories.

I seriously put some of the blame here to the feet of radio, but more to the feet of cinema/TV.

Anything that lets you disengage parts of your brain should be mildly suspect.

6 Sionainn  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 8:26:45am

re: #5 chadu

John Adams is seriously one of my favorite Presidents (though more as a person than President).

If you think he’s impressive, read a biography or two of Teddy Roosevelt (one of my favorite Presidents, both as person and office!).

I seriously put some of the blame here to the feet of radio, but more to the feet of cinema/TV.

Anything that lets you disengage parts of your brain should be mildly suspect.

Do you have a specific recommendation for a biography on Roosevelt? I’m sure there are a gazillion out there!

7 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:13:41am

re: #6 Sionainn

Do you have a specific recommendation for a biography on Roosevelt? I’m sure there are a gazillion out there!

The 3 vol Edmund Morris is my favorite.

The Rise of Theodore Roosevelt. New York: Coward, McCann & Geoghegan. 1979. ISBN 0-375-75678-7.
Theodore Rex. New York: Random House. 2001. ISBN 978-0-394-55509-6.
Colonel Roosevelt. New York: Random House. 2010. ISBN 978-0-375-50487-7.

McCollough’s Mornings on Horseback is also good.

8 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:15:51am

A thought occurs: the ease, immediacy, and proliferation of modern communications leads to widespread demonstrations of the Dunning-Kruger effect. See en.wikipedia.org

9 Sionainn  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:45:09am

re: #7 chadu

The 3 vol Edmund Morris is my favorite.

The Rise of Theodore Roosevelt. New York: Coward, McCann & Geoghegan. 1979. ISBN 0-375-75678-7.
Theodore Rex. New York: Random House. 2001. ISBN 978-0-394-55509-6.
Colonel Roosevelt. New York: Random House. 2010. ISBN 978-0-375-50487-7.

McCollough’s Mornings on Horseback is also good.

Thanks! I just got Theodore Rex and Colonel Roosevelt for my Kindle from the library and will have to search out the other two…maybe they have them in hardcover at the library itself.

10 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:47:58am

Both the Rise of TR and MoHB deal with his early life, and I’d say one or the other of them is necessary reading before starting Theodore Rex.

11 b_sharp  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 9:52:25am

Sorry, but I try to avoid thinking, it interferes with my absorption of mindless bias confirmation.

12 scottslemmons  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:18:17am

What always astounds me is the way people used to write letters. Just pages and pages and pages of letters that must’ve taken heavy-duty envelopes to package them in. I try to write an e-mail and run out of anything interesting to say after three paragraphs. My Christmas cards aren’t much more than “Happy Holidays! Signed, Scott.”

How on earth could people have managed to write such long letters back then?

13 Sionainn  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 11:31:31am

re: #10 chadu

Both the Rise of TR and MoHB deal with his early life, and I’d say one or the other of them is necessary reading before starting Theodore Rex.

Well, crap.

14 chadu  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 2:40:31pm

re: #13 Sionainn

Sorry, mang.

But to truly dig on TR, you need to know he was a weak and sickly child. Like, they didn’t think he’d survive childhood.

Maybe Wikipedia could help here?

15 Sionainn  Sat, Oct 12, 2013 4:41:49pm

re: #14 chadu

Sorry, mang.

But to truly dig on TR, you need to know he was a weak and sickly child. Like, they didn’t think he’d survive childhood.

Maybe Wikipedia could help here?

Yeah, I think that’s what I’m going to do because I have the other already up and loaded on my Kindle and I feel too lazy to go to the library to get it and too cheap to buy it.


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