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1 ausador  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 10:34:18am

Oh, Orson Scott Card No!

They have another problem with making a sequel, that being that all of the other “Ender” books are just plain weird. “Speaker for the Dead” (the second book) was pretty much gibberish enough but with each additional book the series only got stranger and stranger (and progressively less readable*).

*(if you consider the first story about a ten year old who has already killed two classmates (years apart from each other) being a likeable hero. If you are still able to mourn his being “tricked” into committing xenocide and find the first story readable and compelling to start with)

I suppose they could just abandon the “Card universe” completely and just make up another military centered plot with lots of space battles and explosions though. :(

2 HappyWarrior  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 10:41:19am

Guy needs help getting over his pathetic hate. I don’t care if he wrote a great work of literature or not. He’s a hateful douche.

3 EiMitch  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 10:49:26am

I planned on boycotting the movie anyway. But when I saw this spoiler filled review, (and he does warn you up front about that) I was too curious to resist.

escapistmagazine.com

Link broken? The gist is that the movie is a mediocre adaptation. Not bad, but not good either. And the film practically spoils the big twist by itself. If you haven’t read the book, you might leave the theater wondering why anyone thought this was a big deal in the first place.

So I’m glad I decided to pass on this one.

4 KiTA  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 10:54:33am

Er, does it matter? I thought Orson Scott Card didn’t really write the Ender series?

And wasn’t there some bruhaha about the whole thing being an allegory for Adolph Hitler’s early life?

5 kirkspencer  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 12:24:12pm

I enjoyed the tale as a short story when I was 17. (1977 Analog Magazine). I wasn’t as fond of the novel. And when I tried to re-read the series a few years ago I found myself variously bored, disgusted, and kicked out of my suspension of disbelief.

I won’t be seeing the movie simply because I’m not interested.

6 CriticalDragon1177  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 12:26:36pm

Randall Gross.

I’m Glad that Orson Scott Card’s homophobia is upsetting people. Its a good sign. Only about twenty years ago, almost no one would have cared.

7 Ace-o-aces  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 8:56:14pm

re: #1 ausador

They have another problem with making a sequel, that being that all of the other “Ender” books are just plain weird. “Speaker for the Dead” (the second book) was pretty much gibberish enough but with each additional book the series only got stranger and stranger (and progressively less readable*).

“Speaker for the Dead” is an interesting novel actually. The bigger problem for the studio is that it involves almost no action. It’s a very talky book.

8 SidewaysQuark  Sun, Nov 3, 2013 9:51:24pm

When deciding whether or not to see a movie, all that matters is the quality of the movie.

9 BusyMonster  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:17:55am

What’s weird about all this is there’s quite a bit of homoerotica in Card’s novels. Songmaster is rife with it, and even Ender’s Game has some of it, as I recall.

Methinks the lady doth protest too much … .

I also heard that EG and Speaker for the Dead aren’t really his, which I can almost see. I’ve become very disappointed with him and I can’t read his crap anymore, especially since he decided to stop writing real fiction and start writing religious tracts.

10 BusyMonster  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 7:22:29am

re: #2 HappyWarrior

Guy needs help getting over his pathetic hate. I don’t care if he wrote a great work of literature or not. He’s a hateful douche.

I’m not sure anything of his is a great work of literature, nor is it likely to be.

11 Ace-o-aces  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 8:11:19am

re: #9 BusyMonster

I also heard that EG and Speaker for the Dead aren’t really his,

No, those are his. It’s the latter stuff he’s been increasingly farming out a la Tom Clancy or Arthur C. Clarke.

12 Political Atheist  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 9:08:50am

Counterpoint, if I may?
I don’t blame a work for it’s author. Movies are collaborative art. When you boycott Orson Scott card you miss the word of dozens of creative people. If I like the content-Any of the following could get my money/view.
Michael Moore, Sean Penn, Mel Gibson, Jon Voight, Lars Von Tryer, Roman Polanski, I guess I could go on.

There is not a whiff of Orson Scott Cards homophobia in Enders Game. Not a scintilla.

I saw the film yesterday in Imax and I really enjoyed the most faithful SciFi adaptation I can remember ever seeing. Maybe the closest script to a book since Hunt For Red October.

There is a worthwhile moral to the story about our inhumanity in how we treat each other and our enemies. It takes down and shows the inhumanity of the 1% doctrine.
It reminds us genocide is a sin against everything.

13 HappyWarrior  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 10:20:55am

re: #10 BusyMonster

I’m not sure anything of his is a great work of literature, nor is it likely to be.

I never read it honestly. I’ve never been a big sci-fi guy but I remembered a lot of people saying it was a good work. Anyhow, I am not one to boycott someone’s work because of their politics. I thought it was unbelievably shitty what was done to the Dixie Chicks. But I have equally no problem Mr. Card a homophobic douchenozzle.

14 BusyMonster  Mon, Nov 4, 2013 12:17:21pm

re: #13 HappyWarrior

Anyhow, I am not one to boycott someone’s work because of their politics.

I’m not boycotting Card because of his politics. I’m bored with his sub-standard self-aggrandizing bullshit writing. Xenocide was the supposed capstone of the “Enders” trilogy, and it was boring and repetitive, and I paid for a signed first edition of that SOB and I’ve never been so disappointed.

His Homecoming series was where I parted ways with him, and it was because the book was a poorly-disguised religious tract, and boring as shit.


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